Shroud Of The Avatar - Shit Went Persistent

Ryanz_sl said:

At first I was really excited...but then I realized...this isn't an MMO?

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So, is this online at all? What's the point of all this emphasis on player housing if not?

Ultima Online player housing = great
Skyrim player housing = pointless

There's no need for player housing in a single player game. Just give me a big storage chest or whatever.

joeboo_sl said:

So, is this online at all? What's the point of all this emphasis on player housing if not?

Ultima Online player housing = great
Skyrim player housing = pointless

There's no need for player housing in a single player game. Just give me a big storage chest or whatever.

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"Play options will include solo, friends only, or open multiplayer via the Selective Multiplayer system"

I assume this means similar to neverwinter, or minecraft/terraria. there will be public servers. no idea if separate clients or if it will be 3rd party making these server clients. or if the studio itself will be hosting these open mp.

Most of the time in Skyrim I just murdered a houses occupants so I could dump my excess inventory. That's about how interesting player housing is in a single player game

joeboo_sl said:

There's no need for player housing in a single player game. Just give me a big storage chest or whatever.

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Baldur's Gate Fortress system was very, very cool. NWN2 had a great system as well. I think you mean the whole meaningless system of 'just a place to store your items' which I'd totally agree.

But when it's done right, it's incredible and can be very meaningful.

Jait_sl said:

edit: +rep to whoever remembers the name of that woman (she used some fantasy tag) who was really famous at the time who had columns and her own hintbook series for pretty much every major game. Name totally escapes me at the moment.

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Scorpia?

Gopher Yerguns_sl said:

Scorpia?

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Spent about 30 minutes on google and couldn't find the right keywords I guess. Her columns were incredible. I was reading her stuff long before CGW. A gamers gamer in a world supposedly dominated by nerdy men.

shit actually looks good

Of course it does. Garriot made it. This thread is just plain full of haters.

Ultima I-II-III revolutionary in every single way. First 3d dungeons, etc..etc..etc...

Wing Commander, first true physics engine of it's kind.

Ultima Underworld, every game you've played since is STILL using it's ideas.

UO. The Jesus Christ of Online gaming. The first true MMO.

And literally a myriad of other shit too long to list.


edit: There's an axiom that you never, ever put your own money into your projects. This is true in almost every field. As for folks who do? Ask Kevin Costner, or any entrepreneur how that usually works out.

Game might be great, graphics look worse than Oblivion tho lol, if you think that looks good in the graphics department you havent played a PC game made post 2006 I think.

Looks good... Same problem as all Garriot games though. Total dork-outs with very limited appeal.

Jait_sl said:

Of course it does. Garriot made it. This thread is just plain full of haters.

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Yeah, he might have made a few bad games, but he has also made more good games than pretty much anyone else. And I don't think that most people that didn't play UO back in 1997 can appreciate how revolutionary it was.

He is the George Lucas of RPGs is that what you're saying? And is that a good or bad thing?

Ugh, I don't miss UO's inventory. Why bring that back?

Big Flex_sl said:

shit actually looks good

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Really? I mean, taste is subjective and all... but that looked incredibly boring and tedious to me. What did you like about it?

Zhaun_sl said:

Ugh, I don't miss UO's inventory. Why bring that back?

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Ive been reading up on this game on different sites and everyone is just gushing over the inovation of the "keyword" NPC dialogue system. I guess everything old is new again.