What I'm trying to say is that in my experience Liverpool is a whole city full of cunts where in Manchester you have to go to their specific cunt suburbs (I spend my time in the student areas and city centre).
Just not true that. I've lived and worked all over Europe and the Middle East. Liverpool and Newcastle are the two friendliest places to go in my experience, generally speaking, anywhere in the world. As a non local you can speak to anyone, be friendly, get along with, get help from most people as though you were their own.
As far as football stadiums goes Old Trafford is by far the worst place to visit. Man U fans in a lot of places sit above Liverpool fans. It's not been unusual to have literally bags of piss and shit thrown down. The police are as anti and hostile to away fans - especially from Liverpool - as the most extreme of their followers. Getting locked in for an hour or two after a match and being refused access to toilets is just the start of it. Physical abuse is common once out of the ground and don't expect any help even if you are in danger. I haven't experienced this at any other ground in England.
Liverpool has suffered immeasurably from a smear campaign dating back to Hillsborough driven by the Government and the ruling elite. Young and middle aged people today just take it for granted that it's true. 'Thieving scousers', 'bin dippers', 'scroungers'. Every city has these things in some areas and to some degree. Liverpool has it, but no more than others. But the lies perpetuated by the media and the authorities has become true to those who don't know any better.
This isn't confined to history, it's still going on. This
todayfor example :
Hillsborough Wikipedia posts: Government launches inquiry after insults aimed at Liverpool fans traced to Government computers in Whitehall - Home News - UK - The Independent
"Blame Liverpool fans" was written on the main webpage about the tragedy, in which 96 people were crushed to death in a crowd during the FA Cup semi-final game between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest in 1989.
"Nothing for the victims of the Heysel stadium disaster" - the deaths of 39 people in a crush during a Liverpool-Juventus game in 1985 - was written into a passage about the Hillsborough memorial at Liverpool FC's stadium, while "This is Anfield" was changed to "This is a Shithole".
And the name of Liverpool FC's adopted anthem, "You'll Never Walk Alone", was changed to "You'll Never Walk Again" .
This all from Government officials in Sport, Finance and Legal Departments !!!
The Liverpool Echo newspaper reported that it had linked the comments, made between 2009 and 2012, to IP addresses of computers in Whitehall departments, including the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, the Treasury and the Office of the Solicitor General.
One of my closest friends is Anne Williams brother. I knew Anne and know all her family well - she lived and came from around the corner from me (I live in Formby, a small village which also includes a number of players including Gerrard et al). The amount of bullshit that has been spread about individuals and families from Liverpool generally and through Hillsborough - not least by those in authority- is sub human. Yet you'll get people who don't know any better criticizing them for still trying to get the truth about Hillsborough out.
1. I suspect over a reasonably short period of time the animosity between LFC and Man U fans will die down. Ferguson was the cause of most of it and is a horrible and vile man. Only have to look at an example like Gary Neville - by far the best football pundit in the UK who is now held in massive respect by LFC fans.
2. People from both Liverpool and Manchester would do well to consider whether it suits the elite to have Mancs and Scousers at each others throats instead of getting their heads together and doing something about the North/South divide.
There was a time not so long ago when Liverpool was a massive commercial and industrial force with one of the biggest ports in Europe -in turn Liverpool fed the industry and commerce of Manchester. As a child I used to watch some of the biggest ships in the world arrive down from the Irish Sea and marvel at the size of the surge they produced
It was a force which London had to take note of. Thatcher put and end to that. It's ports are growing significantly again though. We will see massive change in the north west in the next decade.
