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In other news Mysterio is officially out. No great loss there in recent years. Time to bring Kalisto up to sell his masks because I doubt Sin Cara is cutting it in that department.
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WWE had him dumb down his style. They get these guys from the indies that have 1000 moves, and tell them to trim it down to 1/100 of what they can do, if they want to be successful. They call it WWE style. CM Punk has cut promos where he's talked about how you have to dumb down your style to make a living in the WWE. The DB you see now is not the guy he was in the Indies. WWE takes your internet phenoms and ruins them. The pre WWE DB is the most technically perfect wrestler after Y2K.
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I always thought if Rey ever stepped in the ring again, his legs would fall off at the knees.
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haha yeah that probably isn't be far from the truth. I liked him in his prime but in recent years his matches became stale and boring.
Good. Guy is seriously over rated. Sure, he is a very technical wrestler, the people buying tickets and PPV etc dont give a shit about technical ability, can you entertain? he doesnt. His stupid yes chant does tho.
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Daniel Bryan, aside from Mizdow, is the most entertaining wrestler I'm WWE and, aside from Shinsuke Nakamura, the world.
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Yes, you are right, he's not entertaining, and the segments he's in aren't the highest rated segments of the show. When they have him wrestle multiple times a night, because they know that's what the fans want, that's imaginary. Also, I guess the study that came out that showed that he's one of the few guys that move ratings any more was fictitious. For a guy that isn't the face, he moves ratings more than anyone in the last five years has at WWE. Nice attempt at trolling.
The one valid complaint you had was on his moveset, and that's the WWE's fault. Someone tell me please why WWE wants the guys to have only five moves, and to sell those moves more? It doesn't make sense. These guys are awesome in the indies, and boring at WWE in comparison. Hell, El Torito (yes, the bull mascot) is an awesome wrestler if you look at his matches in Latin America.
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I wonder if it is a safety issue. A lot of the craziest moves I've seen from the indies loom dangerous. As far as I can tell, every promotion has its own style (when I was a kid, I loved the WWE characters and watching Ric Flair and Arn Anderson rassle in the NWA). I bet any promotion would ask wrestlers to wrestle their style.
It pretty much is, which is why I'm surprised they allow the flying headbut still.
Banning things like the piledriver, telling spot-monkeys like the hardy's to tone down once the true nature of concussions was known, and refusing to let people use versions of the Style's Clash and Samoa Joe's musclebuster show it's to do with safety but it doesn't excuse "five moves of doom" when we look back at 70's and 80's wrestling that had very few high-spots and a shit load of moves. When I look at things like the way people performe stuff like neckbreakers compared to in the past though it's pretty clear that the old skillsets are dying out, they are nearly always sloppy and transition too quickly....hell even some of the best like DB forget things like ring psychology and remembering what body part has been worked over or injured (see double-belt yes chant on RAW day after winning at WM)
Banning things like the piledriver, telling spot-monkeys like the hardy's to tone down once the true nature of concussions was known, and refusing to let people use versions of the Style's Clash and Samoa Joe's musclebuster show it's to do with safety but it doesn't excuse "five moves of doom" when we look back at 70's and 80's wrestling that had very few high-spots and a shit load of moves. When I look at things like the way people performe stuff like neckbreakers compared to in the past though it's pretty clear that the old skillsets are dying out, they are nearly always sloppy and transition too quickly....hell even some of the best like DB forget things like ring psychology and remembering what body part has been worked over or injured (see double-belt yes chant on RAW day after winning at WM)
Only thing that guy is moving is the overly sensitive fat, hipster, beard wearing faggots cock. Noone outside of the casual fan base gives a shit about him
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WWE rivalries centering around wanting the championship and proving who is the better wrestler? What is happening...
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WWE has to be trolling with Daniel Bryan. They know from their own data, the fans consider him to be the face of WWE. They are showing him less and less. I'm pretty sure at this point, after watching Big Nose on Stone Cold's podcast, he's trolling us. What was he on tonight? 3 minutes and no promo?
Leave Daniel Bryan out of it. In general, Tonight's RAW was ass, and that's not good. Wrestlemania is just a few weeks away. Was there one good match?
I'm getting sick of this "five moves of death."
Leave Daniel Bryan out of it. In general, Tonight's RAW was ass, and that's not good. Wrestlemania is just a few weeks away. Was there one good match?
I'm getting sick of this "five moves of death."
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Of course they are. Vince knows the more it is perceived that the company is jobbing Bryan the more people talk. The more they talk the more word of mouth and print the company gets. These same people are there week in week out watching/subscribing and can't wait for next week. It's cheap heat but it's working because it's always worked. The crap about people cancelling after the Rumble? More people signed up than quit. We are all suckers in the end.
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I have yet to hear anything good about Demott. He seems like a massive douche bag.
Wrestling News - Former NXT Star Claims Bill Demott Bullied Developmental Talent With Homophobic and Physical Abuse - WWE WrestleMania 31 Results
Wrestling News - Former NXT Star Claims Bill Demott Bullied Developmental Talent With Homophobic and Physical Abuse - WWE WrestleMania 31 Results
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I don't know why they have a jobber like Hugh Morris coaching talent. Didn't Lance Storm work in their developmental for a while? Sure, I've played half-orc bards with more charisma than him, but he can fucking rassle.
I thought last night was one of the better Raws in a while. I am coming to grips with how they treat Daniel Bryan. Ultimately, I dont think it matters where he is on the card. Everyone knows he is the best wrestler in the world. Thats more prestigious than any belt the WWE can put on him. As long as I can watch him work good matches and that is what Bryan Danielson the person wants to do, that is fine with me.
I thought last night was one of the better Raws in a while. I am coming to grips with how they treat Daniel Bryan. Ultimately, I dont think it matters where he is on the card. Everyone knows he is the best wrestler in the world. Thats more prestigious than any belt the WWE can put on him. As long as I can watch him work good matches and that is what Bryan Danielson the person wants to do, that is fine with me.
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I agree with last nights Raw. I didn't think it was awful by any stretch. And that was a pretty decent Divas match. Maybe it wasn't a even a 5 star match but it was nice seeing a legit Divas match finally. They even used legit wrestling moves! lol It's so pointless seeing a waste of time 5-15 seconds Divas match every week. I can't even take a shit that fast so what's the point?!