Star Wars general purpose movie stuff
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Chukzombi
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i didnt even click that bullshit. you guys know the Obi Wan TV show was CANCELLED, right? its not happening this year, next year or any year. Disney is in limp home mode. those Iger approved shows are being scaled back or cancelled.
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jayrebb
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New "Rey-esque" character archtype revealed to be casted for "High Republic" series.
It's going to be an unstoppable Mary Sue female lead again.
Stale and boring.
Disney really thinks they can make a majority of women care about Star Wars. Its misguided corporate marketing continues.
The last bomb was the Asian/Chinese appeal-- they tried to use marketing science to appeal to China and were universally pushed out of the market and rejected.
That was the biggest L in recent history for Disney.
This latest casting choice, and female lead character, is going to be yet another marketing science experiment pushed onto the fans.
It's going to be an unstoppable Mary Sue female lead again.
Stale and boring.
Disney really thinks they can make a majority of women care about Star Wars. Its misguided corporate marketing continues.
The last bomb was the Asian/Chinese appeal-- they tried to use marketing science to appeal to China and were universally pushed out of the market and rejected.
That was the biggest L in recent history for Disney.
This latest casting choice, and female lead character, is going to be yet another marketing science experiment pushed onto the fans.
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The best female characters in Star Wars were NOT strong independent man-hating women (well except Leia kinda, but Han was a douche), they were strong women who worked right along side their male counterparts. Leia with Luke and Han, Ahsoka with Anakin and Kenobi, Bastila with Revan. It's one of those 'you can't have one without the other' kind of situations. Too bad they shit the bed so hard with character development in the prequels and sequels, Padme and Rey could have been up there too.
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Iger back in full control of Disney
www.businessinsider.com
Hiatus ended-- full CEO powers and control retained. CEO is just a vanity title now.
I had previously predicted a 2021 contract extension for Iger after Chapek did some reorganization, but the timeline has moved up with the quarantine.
Disney financial turmoil could mean if Lucas is interested, Star Wars could be re-sold back. Lucas was keen to return to the IP a few months ago requesting full creative control, but I don't know if that translates to paying Disney 2,3,4 billion dollars to do so.
Former Disney CEO Bob Iger has informally reasserted control during the coronavirus crisis, The New York Times reports
Bob Iger abruptly stepped away from his role of Disney CEO in February, but he remains as executive chairman.
www.businessinsider.com
Hiatus ended-- full CEO powers and control retained. CEO is just a vanity title now.
I had previously predicted a 2021 contract extension for Iger after Chapek did some reorganization, but the timeline has moved up with the quarantine.
Disney financial turmoil could mean if Lucas is interested, Star Wars could be re-sold back. Lucas was keen to return to the IP a few months ago requesting full creative control, but I don't know if that translates to paying Disney 2,3,4 billion dollars to do so.
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jayrebb
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George has love for Star Wars, but loathes the fandom. That's on record. In order for him to consider buying the IP back I imagine it would need to be a firesale.
It was a sweetheart deal to begin with. But it would appear his main quest, at this point in time, is full control of Lucas Film-- without footing any of the bill. He's not likely to look a gifthorse in the mouth and give Disney a penny for it unless this IP hits the bargain bin.
This financial restructuring period for Disney, however, opened the gates.
It was a sweetheart deal to begin with. But it would appear his main quest, at this point in time, is full control of Lucas Film-- without footing any of the bill. He's not likely to look a gifthorse in the mouth and give Disney a penny for it unless this IP hits the bargain bin.
This financial restructuring period for Disney, however, opened the gates.
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It's a fun possibility, however improbable. Iger is unlikely to hand over control of Lucas Film unless Lucas is footing most of the bill, if not all of it.
Lucas current pitch is he wants to just come in and fix Star Wars-- and meetings with Iger 2 months ago haven't really gone anywhere since they sat down about it. My guess is Iger's counter-offer was Lucas can produce an entire movie (Lucas on producer credit, pays for entire production, costing Disney nothing) and then they can go from there. The sticking point that leaked from the meeting was Lucas wants 0 studio interference. Full creative control. Even if Lucas pays for a movie, I just don't see him getting full creative control.
And so it's stalled out.
But this latest development advances it one step closer, regardless of how many steps away that is.
Lucas current pitch is he wants to just come in and fix Star Wars-- and meetings with Iger 2 months ago haven't really gone anywhere since they sat down about it. My guess is Iger's counter-offer was Lucas can produce an entire movie (Lucas on producer credit, pays for entire production, costing Disney nothing) and then they can go from there. The sticking point that leaked from the meeting was Lucas wants 0 studio interference. Full creative control. Even if Lucas pays for a movie, I just don't see him getting full creative control.
And so it's stalled out.
But this latest development advances it one step closer, regardless of how many steps away that is.
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Chukzombi
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2 months ago if you said Disney was pondering bankruptcy and would have to borrow 5 billion dollars in order to stay in business i would have called you delusional.
Disney Enters Into New $5 Billion Credit Agreement
In an SEC filing on Monday, Disney said that it had signed a new 364-day revolving credit agreement with Citibank that would provide access to as much as $5 billion.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
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nothing you linked says (1) they are considering bankruptcy (2) they HAVE to borrow $5 billion to stay in business. Borrowing money now while interest rates are at historical rates is just easy business decision, build up a cash hoard so you have a lot of options for the next few years. Disney has over $7b in literal cash in the bank so even if they draw $0 revenue -- impossible, they have reached over 50m D+ subs so thats hundreds of millions a month alone -- they can survive for years just spending what they already have in the bank.
That article you linked even goes on to mention Disney has access to nearly $17 billion in credit if they need. Literally every public company on the planet has billions in loans, better to make bets with other peoples money.
The real question is what does entertainment look like now in 3-4 years. Everyone just sorta assumed movies limp along and TV/streaming is a bigger and bigger market like video games, but now I don't think anyone really knows anymore.
That article you linked even goes on to mention Disney has access to nearly $17 billion in credit if they need. Literally every public company on the planet has billions in loans, better to make bets with other peoples money.
The real question is what does entertainment look like now in 3-4 years. Everyone just sorta assumed movies limp along and TV/streaming is a bigger and bigger market like video games, but now I don't think anyone really knows anymore.
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Chukzombi
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their numbers are suspect. the fact they extended their credit by 5 billion says things arent so peachy.
The Walt Disney Company Files for $6 Billion in Debt Offering - Inside the Magic
The Walt Disney Company has now filed for a debt offering totaling $5.89 billion after taking a massive hit from the coronavirus crisis.
Disney Raises Additional $1.3 Billion in New Debt - Inside the Magic
After a recent $6 Billion debt offering, the Walt Disney Company has returned to the debt market for fresh cash; this time in Canada.
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Heytheir numbers are suspect. the fact they extended their credit by 5 billion says things arent so peachy.
The Walt Disney Company Files for $6 Billion in Debt Offering - Inside the Magic
The Walt Disney Company has now filed for a debt offering totaling $5.89 billion after taking a massive hit from the coronavirus crisis.insidethemagic.net
Disney Raises Additional $1.3 Billion in New Debt - Inside the Magic
After a recent $6 Billion debt offering, the Walt Disney Company has returned to the debt market for fresh cash; this time in Canada.
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