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Did they pay 4 billion for the m-she-u?

If the star wars movies sold 4 billion in tickets that's only 2 billion to Disney. Movie theaters get half.

And out of that 2 billion you need to subtract production and marketing costs. So what are they, less than a billion in the black? So that knocks off 1/4 of what they paid for the IP. Pretty much everything after the trilogy has lost money just like Disney's stock price.
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It comes out to around 1 billion in the black-- according to industry estimates from the total box office (counting all Star Wars films). Hardly cause for a 7 year hiatus.

Star Wars was punished for 1 miss, while the MShe-U continued to release flop after flop. Everyone knew the reasons Solo failed-- it's failure was even predicted by George Lucas and Harrison Ford months in advance, and yet the plug was pulled over just one incident. An incident that they had nearly 6-8 months of advance warning on to plan around, after the Lord and Miller firing.
 
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jayrebb said:
It comes out to around 1 billion in the black-- according to industry estimates from the total box office (counting all Star Wars films). Hardly cause for a 7 year hiatus.

Star Wars was punished for 1 miss, while the MShe-U continued to release flop after flop. Everyone knew the reasons Solo failed-- it's failure was even predicted by George Lucas and Harrison Ford months in advance, and yet the plug was pulled over just one incident. An incident that they had nearly 6-8 months of advance warning on to plan around, after the Lord and Miller firing.
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You're kind of answering your own question here. Corporation didn't just sporadically start hating money; it has lost enough money that they are trying to figure out how to kid-glove it back to profitability and stem the bleeding. You've seen how they treat franchises that make money, and this isn't it; that's a pretty big "aha" moment for how they've accounted for gains/losses here.

If what they show on paper doesn't match up with how they handle the franchise in real life then one of the two is off and, Corporation didn't just start hating money. It's not a single miss; this has most likely missed every swing that it has taken so far and they know that it's essentially dead, so they scrambled for Baby Yoda, which looks like another whiff. Look at what they do, not at what they say, and you get your answer.
 
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Something else to keep in mind:
These corporations are happy to "take a loss" when it pushes their agenda. Especially when the target audience is our kids. Ensuring a whole new generation that believes men can be women, white people are inferior, etc. The "loss" is simply the cost of advertising and social manipulation. And it's not a total loss. They can claim "losses" which we pay back to them, plus donors helping them continue to push The Message.
 
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jayrebb said:
It comes out to around 1 billion in the black-- according to industry estimates from the total box office (counting all Star Wars films). Hardly cause for a 7 year hiatus.

Star Wars was punished for 1 miss, while the MShe-U continued to release flop after flop. Everyone knew the reasons Solo failed-- it's failure was even predicted by George Lucas and Harrison Ford months in advance, and yet the plug was pulled over just one incident. An incident that they had nearly 6-8 months of advance warning on to plan around, after the Lord and Miller firing.
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This is some weird cope.

Star Wars wasn't punished for one miss, they were run into the ground by giant fucking retards. The retards had, and still have, no real plans or vision for the franchise. Next year is the 50th anniversary of the most popular movie franchise in history and their catastrophic mismanagement has led them to have exactly zero events or anticipation for it.
 
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I’m gonna fan fic a bit. There’s no undoing what they did. None. But I can be as vindictive as Kennedy was to the original trilogy. I would do some mild retcons and have had Luke have a wife (Mara Jade) and a son and daughter that he hid from Kyle Ren and Snoke and from Rey because he saw her alternative future just like she did. I would have those kids “come back” and step into Rey’s new Jedi order that has just been a fucking disaster - multiple students lost to the dark side and zero faith from whatever new government is in place. Then I would have her slowly descend into the dark side in a fit of resentment and jealousy when Luke’s wife and kids are tremendously adept at teaching and nurturing the students.

that would set up a fall where she joins her own fallen students and palpatine subtly communicates to her as a force ghost and abandons the rule of 2. This would allow for a more Old Republic style approach of dark and light Jedi in some sort of abundance. And of course she (but maybe not all students since we need sequels) falls at the hand of Luke’s son.

upshot is the way out of this is not backward. It’s shitting all over Kennedy’s bullshit just like she did. Favreau and Feloni are not those guys. Not is Disney leadership.
 
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Caeden said:
I’m gonna fan fic a bit. There’s no undoing what they did. None. But I can be as vindictive as Kennedy was to the original trilogy. I would do some mild retcons and have had Luke have a wife (Mara Jade) and a son and daughter that he hid from Kyle Ren and Snoke and from Rey because he saw her alternative future just like she did. I would have those kids “come back” and step into Rey’s new Jedi order that has just been a fucking disaster - multiple students lost to the dark side and zero faith from whatever new government is in place. Then I would have her slowly descend into the dark side in a fit of resentment and jealousy when Luke’s wife and kids are tremendously adept at teaching and nurturing the students.

that would set up a fall where she joins her own fallen students and palpatine subtly communicates to her as a force ghost and abandons the rule of 2. This would allow for a more Old Republic style approach of dark and light Jedi in some sort of abundance. And of course she (but maybe not all students since we need sequels) falls at the hand of Luke’s son.

upshot is the way out of this is not backward. It’s shitting all over Kennedy’s bullshit just like she did. Favreau and Feloni are not those guys. Not is Disney leadership.
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Dude wtf? Most fanfix are just sex with vampires.
 
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I'm not a SW fan but I loved Andor TV show and I think they should keep doing this instead of pushing merchandise idiocy. Both Rogue One and Andor are awesome, they depict well how going rebel isn't all about heroism and chivalry. It's shady, dirty, conniving, etc.
We don't need another Skywalker legacy, we need what's behind the curtains, what's going on the galaxy besides the main stuff.
 
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Bondurant said:
I'm not a SW fan but I loved Andor TV show and I think they should keep doing this instead of pushing merchandise idiocy. Both Rogue One and Andor are awesome, they depict well how going rebel isn't all about heroism and chivalry. It's shady, dirty, conniving, etc.
We don't need another Skywalker legacy, we need what's behind the curtains, what's going on the galaxy besides the main stuff.
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I donno, I kinda want more tits and lightsabers too. Otherwise, yeah.
 
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Bondurant said:
I'm not a SW fan but I loved Andor TV show and I think they should keep doing this instead of pushing merchandise idiocy. Both Rogue One and Andor are awesome, they depict well how going rebel isn't all about heroism and chivalry. It's shady, dirty, conniving, etc.
We don't need another Skywalker legacy, we need what's behind the curtains, what's going on the galaxy besides the main stuff.
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When we watched Maul Shadow Lord recently with the family, I said half-jokingly I'd totally watch a show about some backwater planet police detective solving crimes in the Star Wars universe. It's a really huge and rich universe and background but they keep making movies about the same fucking thing.
 
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I'd totally watch a show about some backwater planet police detective solving crimes in the Star Wars universe.
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That's what George was trying to get off the ground before he sold off. HBO passed on it after he pitched it. He sat on the pilot for a few years developing it further at Lucas Film-- up until he decided not to do the sequel trilogy. The TV series was effectively dead long before the sale, but the sale completely killed it.

The test shoots looked promising. One thing Lucas knew how to do was capture a "Star Wars" vibe, whether it was slop or not.
 
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