Royal
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He had a familiarity to me as well but it's not Gollum. I haven't been able to put my finger on it yet but I've seen something very similar before. Maybe I'll remember it after a rewatch.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)
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Malakriss
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Jurassic World would be the most recent comparison where China was a huge boost but well below Avatar numbers everywhere else. Avatar had nine 100m+ countries, five of them 150m+ with China breaking 200m. Needs to be a movie with global appeal if you want to even think about 2b.
Royal
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Avatar had a pretty long run as well, at least around here. Not quite Titanic long but it was lengthy.
Merrith
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I skipped a lot of the last couple pages. Pretty much generic complaints v. generic praises.
Also I pointed out why I think it would be weird for her to be that far removed from powerful force user as the main heroine.
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I think you missinterpeted the end of ROTJ as "wohooo the rebels win!". In my mind ROTJ was a body-blow to the Empire, but hardly a reason for it to crumble in 10 min. Plenty of powerhungry senators to jockey for a shot at being emperor, no real reason for anyone with any form of power to go back to a republic that showed itself to be too much redtape and petty squabbles to function and have a purpose.
I liked the new movie, I liked basicaly everything but the stupid new name for the empire and the 1930?s inspired hate speech which I thought was slightly over the top. Good use of the old actors, not too much CGI and good choises for the new faces. A lot like ANH with a slow opening to set the stage then massive action in the end. Looking forward to see where they go with the next movie.
(Also, fucking hell, how did we end up with this director kicking Lucas ass in making StarWars movies?)
khorum
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TFA won't do well in China because of the black hero. They're not racists, it's just that they culturally associate blackness with dirtiness and dishonesty.
When the Chinese found out Zoe Saldana was black, Avatar's box office immediately got schlonged.
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Perhaps they will run a special version in China with like someone else's face over Finn in a JibJab manner.
I am really curious as to how it will do in China, Disney poured some coin into marketing and raising awareness of Star Wars there. Convincing the Chinese to chug Star Wars kool-aid would reap massive dividends for them going forward.
khorum
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Well posters and trailers are heavily influenced by screenings and focus groups so it's pretty representative of their respective markets. Shrinking Mace Dindu is a no-brainer, but why did they turn Kylo Ren to face forward and triple BB-8 in size:
Royal
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Qhue
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I did see the controversy earlier this month when the Force Awakens poster in China has shrunk Finn down to miniscule size and stuck him in an area where he kinda blends into the background as well as completely deleting Poe. I was wondering why the hubbub at the time.
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Drakain
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How would it be any different if she was Luke's daughter?
Anakin>Luke>Rey
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Obi-Wan>child>Rey
If they followed ANH this closely, then it's not outside the realm of possibilities that they draw closely from Empire. I can see them making Luke's wife/Rey's mom/Obi-Wan's daughter the Sith Apprentice to Snoke as your Vader "I am your father" moment. Ben is not a Sith, he is a Knight of Ren.
On a different topic, I read the Resistance as being fed up with the New Republic not taking the first Order seriously. I can see Leia in the Senate telling them the Empire isn't dead and that they're rebuilding. Only to have the Senate laugh at her.
Shonuff
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I like how you started with this statement, and then proceeded to do the same thing you criticized us for doing.
Royal
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I wouldn't say funny looking but she does have the sort of face that isn't going to age well. Between her and Carrie Fisher the "Star Wars Curse" will be the talk in Hollywood 30 years from now amongst actresses. But she's 10 times the actress Fisher is so maybe her career will fare well.
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Not sure if you're listing 2 different scenarios there or saying Obi-Wan's child would be a daughter and Luke's wife (or just Luke father and Obi-Wan's daughter the mother). In the 2 different scenario case, I think it's a lot different if her immediate parent is Luke Skywalker, versus if she is just descended from Obi-Wan and her parent is his child who had Rey with another random.
If you're just saying Luke and Obi-Wan's presumed daughter had a child and it was Rey, then yeah that would make sense with her being the heroine.
khorum
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About finished with the novelization now.
What's interesting is that for the most part it's shot-per-shot and line-per-line identical with the movie. So those scenes that were in the book that weren't in the movie must've been in the uncut version of the movie that Alan Dean Foster saw while he was writing the book for a few months----and they cut waaay more than 20-30 mins. Prolly closer to 40 mins at least.
The pacing is definitely better in the novel and Poe is way better established. If episode 8 ends up being a Poe/Finn buddy movie like Benicio Del Toro implied, then they did themselves a disservice by cutting out Poe's scenes from the movie.
What's interesting is that for the most part it's shot-per-shot and line-per-line identical with the movie. So those scenes that were in the book that weren't in the movie must've been in the uncut version of the movie that Alan Dean Foster saw while he was writing the book for a few months----and they cut waaay more than 20-30 mins. Prolly closer to 40 mins at least.
The pacing is definitely better in the novel and Poe is way better established. If episode 8 ends up being a Poe/Finn buddy movie like Benicio Del Toro implied, then they did themselves a disservice by cutting out Poe's scenes from the movie.
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khorum
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Yeah actually. Leia refused to go to the New Republic with her fears about the rise of the First Order because she felt she would be "disappeared" or have an accident if she showed up in the Senate. That's one of the scenes they cut. It was definitely political-talk of the sort ppl raged at ep1 for tho.
The New Republic had a treaty with the remnants of the Empire. But the Empire just kinda slowly faded while more and more extremist factions took turns controlling the remnants of it. Eventually the most extremist faction under Supreme Leader Snoke took control: the First Order.
Basically the New Republic was a bureaucratically-choked European Union and the First Order is ISIS.