Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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Gamma Rays

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I'm looking into the validity of the rumor that Rian called Mark Hamill a "Motherfucker" behind closed doors at SXSW.

Here's video of a moment when he called him "Motherfucker" on stage. But it seems to be in a light-hearted joking way. I did say 'seems to be' as sometimes someone will grab an opportunity to throw an insult, by masking it as a light-hearted quip.


Text of the conversation I grabbed from the Youtuber's page.

Fan in the audience: "So maybe my wording was incorrect, I think the best word is—"
Rian Johnson [interrupting]: "—No, sorry, ask your question, sorry, we jumped on that."
Fan: "That's OK. Maybe the best word was confu—"
Johnson [interrupting again]: "—There's a lot of feelings here [gestures between Mr Hamill and himself]."
Mark Hamill: "No. She asked a legitimate question. [Inaudible] complain about [inaudible]."
Johnson: "Sorry, what was your question?"
Fan: "It's OK. Maybe my wording was wrong… Confusion maybe…? Or… maybe not… directly getting what Mr Johnson was going at with…
Luke… this version…? So, my question was, if you were in the director's chair, if you were writing the script,
what would be your take on Luke Skywalker? [to Mr Hamill]"
Johnson [interrupting, muttering]: "Oh, I want to hear this…"
Hamill: "No, no, look…"
Johnson [yelling and gesticulating]: "What would *you* do, motherfucker?!"
 
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Kiroy

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Here's video of a moment when he called him "Motherfucker" on stage. But it seems to be in a light-hearted joking way. I did say 'seems to be' as sometimes someone will grab an opportunity to throw an insult, by masking it as a light-hearted quip.


Text of the conversation I grabbed from the Youtuber's page.

Fan in the audience: "So maybe my wording was incorrect, I think the best word is—"
Rian Johnson [interrupting]: "—No, sorry, ask your question, sorry, we jumped on that."
Fan: "That's OK. Maybe the best word was confu—"
Johnson [interrupting again]: "—There's a lot of feelings here [gestures between Mr Hamill and himself]."
Mark Hamill: "No. She asked a legitimate question. [Inaudible] complain about [inaudible]."
Johnson: "Sorry, what was your question?"
Fan: "It's OK. Maybe my wording was wrong… Confusion maybe…? Or… maybe not… directly getting what Mr Johnson was going at with…
Luke… this version…? So, my question was, if you were in the director's chair, if you were writing the script,
what would be your take on Luke Skywalker? [to Mr Hamill]"
Johnson [interrupting, muttering]: "Oh, I want to hear this…"
Hamill: "No, no, look…"
Johnson [yelling and gesticulating]: "What would *you* do, motherfucker?!"

Literally anything else would be a good answer. Luckily this movie jumped the shark so much that what they did with luke doesn't even seem like that big of deal.
 
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Malakriss

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Literally anything else would be a good answer. Luckily this movie jumped the shark so much that what they did with luke doesn't even seem like that big of deal.
After the whole "there's good in you" plot line with Vader and the Emperor you don't have Luke go all sith serial killer at the first sign of dark side, get all hesitant on the first kid kill (can literally see Anakin facepalming that one), get owned by the kid and then trapped in cliche rubble for hand punching out escape in aftermath.

They also wrote out any mention of the Knights of Ren, so for some reason Kylo decided "hey Luke failed at this, bet I can succeed and go finish off the other good kids" immediately after with no Snokes or Knight prompting, handwaved the whole Luke map thing cause that didn't make sense anyways, then transition into retirement with green milk and no fucks given.

But I'm sure this girl with Luke's old lightsaber who arrived on the Falcon will understand grumpy passive-aggressive lightsaber toss over the shoulder and refusal to do anything until R2 beeps a few times about incest kissing photo blackmail. Right up until Rey has her "there's still good in him" moments which makes Luke go back to no fucks given mode and do the exact opposite of Obi-wan. But it's okay, Yoda's there to light an empty tree on fire, lie to him about Rey being ready.. at least.. "from a certain point of view" (she's actually going to need those books but Luke doesn't need to know that lol what a noob).

So Luke leaps into action and force holograms himself across the galaxy after the resistance is almost utterly and totally wiped out and finally we end up with a handful of people on a leaky boat who can save the world without him as Disney erases him from the franchise.
 
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Kiroy

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After the whole "there's good in you" plot line with Vader and the Emperor you don't have Luke go all sith serial killer at the first sign of dark side, get all hesitant on the first kid kill (can literally see Anakin facepalming that one), get owned by the kid and then trapped in cliche rubble for hand punching out escape in aftermath.

They also wrote out any mention of the Knights of Ren, so for some reason Kylo decided "hey Luke failed at this, bet I can succeed and go finish off the other good kids" immediately after with no Snokes or Knight prompting, handwaved the whole Luke map thing cause that didn't make sense anyways, then transition into retirement with green milk and no fucks given.

But I'm sure this girl with Luke's old lightsaber who arrived on the Falcon will understand grumpy passive-aggressive lightsaber toss over the shoulder and refusal to do anything until R2 beeps a few times about incest kissing photo blackmail. Right up until Rey has her "there's still good in him" moments which makes Luke go back to no fucks given mode and do the exact opposite of Obi-wan. But it's okay, Yoda's there to light an empty tree on fire, lie to him about Rey being ready.. at least.. "from a certain point of view" (she's actually going to need those books but Luke doesn't need to know that lol what a noob).

So Luke leaps into action and force holograms himself across the galaxy after the resistance is almost utterly and totally wiped out and finally we end up with a handful of people on a leaky boat who can save the world without him as Disney erases him from the franchise.

They should have just have titty beast crush his skull as he tried to milk it and continued on with the series.
 

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Its really difficult to do anything with Luke if the focus of the movie is on all those shitty characters. Anything you guys could suggest likely doesn't work or is not a good use of Luke. You just can't do a whole lot with the Asian girl, the chase, the casino. It just takes too much runtime.

They should have just have titty beast crush his skull as he tried to milk it and continued on with the series.

EXACTLY. This guy gets it. Don't even try to do anything with Luke. The movie literally doesn't have enough space for him-- this is where Rian fucked up from the jump. I would have suggested writing Luke out of TLJ somehow and saving his appearance and storyline for the Rian Johnson trilogy, where they could do a Luke arc over at least 2 movies and give him a proper introduction and then a proper sendoff befitting of his character. A short scene about why Luke cannot be found. Write him out, clear the way for Episode 9, save treatment for a separate trilogy a few months down the timeline, spawn more characters and more stories. Get people interested in the magic of Star Wars again. Have fresh characters interact with him. Tell a full story. That is what Star Wars used to be about-- FULL STORIES.

Shoehorning him into TLJ for name recognition made absolutely no sense and just lost them future revenue.

That is not a fair question to ask Mark since its obvious what Disney's intentions were with the killing of the old guard. Save for the woman-- who couldn't be allowed to die even after she really died, because women.
 
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Jozu

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I refuse to even acknowledge anything in this movie happened.

Ill give 9 a shot still, just because why not, but I will not be paying for a theater ticket.
 

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I didn't see this in the theater and attempted to watch it last night. I had already skimmed through this thread so I was already aware of the hyper negativity surrounding this film. But, yeah, I just turned it off at about the 30 minute mark. The overly manufactured drama was annoying (i.e. the chick at the beginning pounding that ladder to force the detonator to drop. I guess they don't have voice-command in the SW universe.). Also, how do bombs "drop" in space? I realize Star Wars isn't hard science-fiction, but come on.
 
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jayrebb

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They killed Luke only during the post-production phase but refused to also kill Leia in post-production, despite that making even more sense. Pretty much all you need to know about the producers before shutting it off.
 
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So Luke leaps into action and force holograms himself across the galaxy after the resistance is almost utterly and totally wiped out and finally we end up with a handful of people on a leaky boat who can save the world without him as Disney erases him from the franchise.

Fortunately, Chewie always gases her up so that leaky boat will never run out of fuel.
 

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Sadly there is just nothing cool about Starwars anymore.

I think it was possible to create something that was appealing, but the SJW focus and big titty island just killed everything I knew and loved about the original. I think this series will ultimately be just as bad as episode 1-3 which is saying a lot.
 

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Yeah, Johnson looks more embarrassed than anything else to me.

But can we talk about the fucking land whale on the right? Holy shit she weighs more than the two people on the left and the couch they're sitting on combined!

someone should add a CG Salacious Crumb on the arm of her couch
 
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I had no idea Salacious Crumb had a name and a back story until now. I suck at photoshop so the closest thing I could find is this fucked up Star Wars My Little Pony mash up, which is basically what TLJ is anyway.

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Edit: In case anyone wants to send hate mail directly to the mongoloid responsible for this, Rarity the Hutt claims credit for it.
 
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UPDATED Work on Rian Johnson's New Star Wars Trilogy Has Begun

The news comes from Rian Johnson's longtime producing partner Ram Bergman, who worked closely with the director on The Last Jedi.

While speaking on the topic briefly at the Rakuten TV Empire Awards, Bergman revealed that they've started work on the new Star Wars trilogy and that they hope to get "busier" soon. Here's what he had to say about it.

"We've started. Slowly, slowly, but we've started. Hopefully soon we're going to get busier."


Ram Bergman, Rian Johnson's TLJ producing partner, has confirmed production has begun on the new trilogy.



Ram is first interview-- click to get a vibe for what Bergman is about. Rian is second.

 
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Empire is a British film magazine.

Rian was up against these movies for the Best Director award



I don't feel TLJ was more worthy than half that lineup. Baby Driver, Wonder Woman, and Get Out all had solid directing chops.

TLJ is easily the worst film on that list.
 
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