there was NEVER a case of sequels being even good prior to The Godfather part 2 that I can recall.
Aliens, Terminator 2, Spider-Man 2, Phantasm 2, all amazing sequels.
Empire Strikes back is still the best Star Wars. Even RotJ was great right up until the Ewoks appeared.
Robocop 2, X-Men 2, the Dark Knight, Capt America 2 Winter Soldier, Mad Max Road Warrior, Indy and the Temple of Doom, Backdoor Sluts IX, Predator 2, etc.


Did you read Dune, by chance?Blade Runner 2049 and Dune 2

Right now you are thinking, what, are all these guys just fucking retarded or something? And yes. Yes they are. don't worry I got you
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Jub jub, bitch!Empire Strikes back is still the best Star Wars. Even RotJ was great right up until the Ewoks appeared.

Robocop 2, X-Men 2, the Dark Knight, Capt America 2 Winter Soldier, Mad Max Road Warrior, Indy and the Temple of Doom, Backdoor Sluts IX, Predator 2, etc.
This oneHaven't seen Xmen 2 or some others, what xmen movie series are you referring though...
while I awate your response I will perhaps watch the others I didnt get to.
ill be in my bunk
Star Wars came out when I was six; I got to see all of these as they were released.Haven't seen Xmen 2 or some others, what xmen movie series are you referring though...
while I awate your response I will perhaps watch the others I didnt get to.
ill be in my bunk
Dune 2 is meh. The story is really not good when you stop and think about it.Blade Runner 2049 and Dune 2

Dune 2 is meh. The story is really not good when you stop and think about it.
Part of what kills the Dune mythos for me is that in Herbert's eyes, Paul was almost exactly a JFK analogue. His glorious rise to power in the first book is supposed to be unvarnished and complete Campbell's Hero's Journey, except with the dash that charisma and messiahs turns friends into followers and what comes next is terrible. No one got that, though, and because JFK=VIETNAMTHEDEVIL!!! he wrote Dune Messiah very clearly to show that charismatic leaders can be cause bloody revolutions, as if The French/Russian/Chinese Revolutions were a product of charismatic leaders alone.I mean everything in the show is just setup for the battle of arrakis. It would be hard not for the payoff to be better than 4 hours of setting it up.
Herbert started writing Dune Messiah while writing Dune (1965). The plot from the beginning was always intended to be the rise and fall of Paul.Part of what kills the Dune mythos for me is that in Herbert's eyes, Paul was almost exactly a JFK analogue. His glorious rise to power in the first book is supposed to be unvarnished and complete Campbell's Hero's Journey, except with the dash that charisma and messiahs turns friends into followers and what comes next is terrible. No one got that, though, and because JFK=VIETNAMTHEDEVIL!!! he wrote Dune Messiah very clearly to show that charismatic leaders can be cause bloody revolutions, as if The French/Russian/Chinese Revolutions were a product of charismatic leaders alone.
Where this affects Dune 2 is Villeneuve decided to bleed Dune Messiah into Dune 2 in part in the person of Chani, which is a big part of the reason she is so insufferable.
I am not saying he didn't, nor I am I saying Dune was intended as a standalone, etc. You can go back and read how shocked/disappointed he was people didn't get how people didn't see the "warning signs" with Paul in the first book, and it changed/prompted how he wrote Dune Messiah.Herbert started writing Dune Messiah while writing Dune (1965). The plot from the beginning was always intended to be the rise and fall of Paul.
Dennis Villeneuve said:My guiding principles were Frank Herbert’s intentions. Specifically for [Dune], he was disappointed how people perceived the story. He felt that people misconceived Paul Atreides; that people were seeing him as a hero, where he wanted to do the opposite. So in reaction to that he wrote Dune Messiah in order to insist on the idea that Paul was a dangerous figure, and that the first book was more of a cautionary tale or more of a warning against the current charismatic leaders. Knowing that it gave me a lot of information on how to approach this second movie to make sure that I was heading toward all of Frank Herbert’s initial intentions.
Frank Herbert said:I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: "May be dangerous to your health." One of the most dangerous presidents we had in this century was John Kennedy because people said "Yes Sir Mr. Charismatic Leader what do we do next?" and we wound up in Vietnam. And I think probably the most valuable president of this century was Richard Nixon. Because he taught us to distrust government and he did it by example.
Oh boy this is something I know a bit about.
JL 1 was to introduce Steppenwolf as Darkseid’s Lt.
JL 2 was the “knightmare” scenario hinted at in BVS. Darkseid takes control of Superman or manipulates him to be evil after Lois Lane dies (pregnant with Bruce Wayne’s baby for some stupid reason).
JL3 was to be the big ending with Superfriends vs Darkseid.
Tom Clancy wrote alcoholism well with Jack Ryan struggling with it during the Sum of All Fears novel. Alcoholism can be portrayed really well, but, party girl with no consequences is not it, fam. Unless she drinks away her life or something.
I’m not too educated on JFKs role in vietnam, tbh, so I appreciate you breaking it down like this.I am not saying he didn't, nor I am I saying Dune was intended as a standalone, etc. You can go back and read how shocked/disappointed he was people didn't get how people didn't see the "warning signs" with Paul in the first book, and it changed/prompted how he wrote Dune Messiah.
From Dennis:
From Frank:
Little did he know that JFK was killed, Johnson put in office, and Nixon was set up entirely by the Deep State/CIA because of Vietnam. Bene Gesserit indeed.
Also this article, which speaks to Paul being good and still losing control.
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Frank Herbert's Dune - A Cautionary Tale - Econlib
Warning: There will be spoilers in this post for the plot of Dune, including plot points from the second book that will serve as the basis for the as-yet unmade third movie. The recently released Dune: Part 2 has been a big box-office success, as was the first movie. These two movies were based...www.econlib.org