Superman: Legacy (2025)
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There were other mediums besides the 70s movies to see Superman. Every kid born in the 70s and 80s and probably 90s knew him and his origins story. It’s not so complicated that it was hard to understand. Planet krypton was blowing up so he got sent to earth and kryptonite is his weakness. Boom, done. He was in comics, video games, references in other movies (Goonies comes to mind), cartoons. The “Death of Superman” comic was like national news when it happened, people who never even read the comic (like me) knew it happened. Everyone knew who he was, just because you weren’t paying attention doesn’t make it so.
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Yeah, I really don't understand this, and it sounds so Gen Z. The story is very well known, lots of different sources to find out the story. The Reeves version did a great job and it's not hard to find. Personally, I get sick of wasting a superhero movie with yet another origin story when finding out their origins is so damn easy. Every version of Spidey seems to need this and it's truly unneeded.
This movie is pure Gunn so if you don't like tons of heroes, or jokes thrown in with a small smattering of modern DEI crap, then you probably won't like it. At the same time, it won't be epic but is usually fun that first go. I like seeing other heroes you never see get some spotlight, but I understand the dislike of not focusing more on the dude the movie is named after. I also understand watching Supes, of all heroes, getting beat and tossed around isn't the normal story for him. I doubt Gunn changes much on his formula if it gets a sequel though.
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This topic reminds me of a funny story. In high school there was this massive fat neckbeard who loved Superman. Idk his real name, everyone called him Spanky. We would all fuck with him a bit and he was fairly good natured about it, but one of our friends, Kevin, was always hardcore fucking with him. The dude was over 6ft tall and probably 300 lbs so if he got a hold of us scrawny fucks he could kill us. One day Kevin is fucking with him hard, walking by his classes and waving twinkies through the class window, blowing him shit between each class in the hallways. Near the end of the day Kevin’s fucking with him about thinking he’s Superman and gets a little too close.
Spanky grabs his snap button shirt and rips it open revealing a Superman shirt underneath, yells “Faster than a speeding bullet!” and grabs Kevin by the shirt and yanks him forward. I still remember the mix of laughter and shock on Kevin’s face. Spanky gets him in a headlock and makes him say he’s a bitch or something then let him go. Us few witnesses were about dying with laughter, even Kevin was still laughing.
Spanky grabs his snap button shirt and rips it open revealing a Superman shirt underneath, yells “Faster than a speeding bullet!” and grabs Kevin by the shirt and yanks him forward. I still remember the mix of laughter and shock on Kevin’s face. Spanky gets him in a headlock and makes him say he’s a bitch or something then let him go. Us few witnesses were about dying with laughter, even Kevin was still laughing.
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The idea that nobody born after 1970 knew who Superman was until 2013 would normally be the dumbest shit ever, but then you decided 19 should round up to 40 and now I'm just impressed.
It's like watching Picasso paint
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Yeah this is all fake news. You guys had me thinking I was in some sort of Mandela effect, so I googled it.
Batman the animated series not only debuted on, but completed its entire run on fox. It was the after-school hours, back when us Gen X/early millennials had the TV to babysit us between 3-6pm before our parents got home from work. Fox became "Fox Kids" for that time block.
The WB didn't even exist then, and when it premiered it was the other black channel. Sister sister, the Wayans brothers, etc.
Now eventually WB ands it main rival UPN, the first black channel, they realized they were cannibalizing viewers from one another, and hey, there is only so many churches chicken commercials you can sell ad space for, and they decided to merge into the cw.
I do see that wb and then cw did try and diversify towards white audiences, again only so many chicken and watermelon commercials you can sell, I see shit like seventh heaven and Dawson's creek syndicated on to their networks. I don't doubt that late 90s early 00s that they probably totally did have some Batman cartoon reruns and some new superman animated series, just saying that by then it was too late.
I was already a teenager by the time wb even existed, more concerned with girls than watching cartoons. Im pretty sure I was mowing lawns on Saturday mornings saving up for a car when superman cartoon came out.
For the kids who may have fell into this slim window, born after 1990 or thereabouts, who would of been of age to watch superman animated series? Yeah those guys were early/mid 20s in 2013 when Man of Steel premiered, the perfect age for an angsty, grim dark superman. Those guys are the most snyderbros of all.
Sorry to disappoint all of you but you are mistaken. DC really did drop the ball with superman, whole generations missed out and by the time they tried to fix it with cartoons those kids were the perfect age for snyderverse.
You are either a boomer yourself or your dad was and you just so happened to grow up with reeves superman on VHS, those movies hardly ever even got airtime on network TV. Just checked that too, wb had a bunch of lawsuits happening so they only aired superman on TV in 1982, and then not again until 1994.
DC fucked up, accept it.
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Loser Araysar
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This is all true. I came from USSR in early 1990s without any idea who Superman was (or extremely little, I dont remember) but my first major exposure was Death of Superman. Not the comic itself, but hearing about it in media. That was actual national news.
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Yeah. They absolutely needed to have a mid 90s superman film to bring him to younger audiences, they obviously knew this and tried to make it happen, but they dropped the ball. Looks like wb was fucked up a lot back in the 90s, I'm assuming too much or too little cocaine.
Then a decade later when they finally got their shit together and did superman returns, they must of figured too much time had passed, entire generation of kids missed out, better to appeal to their 40 year old dad's with some reeves nostalgia homage than actually make a superman for a new generation.
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No idea wtf you are taking about or where you are getting your numbers from sorry.
I'll break it down since math is hard for you:
Born before 1970. Reeves is your superman, you got the boyscout origin story.
Born after 1970, through about 1990. Who the fuck is superman? Batman is the only DC character you know.
Born 1990 or after. Grimdark Man of Steel is your superman.
2025: here's a new superman based on 1970s superman of which, we're not going to bother reintroducing the character. Fuck it, we're not even going to show you the whole ass first movie, we're starting this off midway through the 2nd film of his trilogy.
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I think without having much invested in this thread because I have’t watched the movie, and I don’t really care to, and not that big into Superman ( I like him, I like that he is just a good person). A lot of Directors/writers don’t like writing for him, because he lacks the imperfections of a cool anti-hero. And you can’t really do anything else with superman but make him good, because making him grity or whatever will make him not superman. Still, I could probably write a decent superman.
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You are wrong as fuck and assuming just because you yourself didn’t know it must mean everyone else didn’t. Wrong as fuck.
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Superman 2,3,4 go through the first half of the 80s. Superfriends are on from mid 70s to late 80s. WB Superman the Animated Series in the 90s, Lois and Clark, Superboy, Smallville, Justice League, Legion of Superheroes animated series... Hell even reruns of the 50s version were in syndication for decades.
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Yall are going full retard here.
Obviously everyone at some level has heard of superman, its like saying you've never heard of mickey mouse or Jesus. But whole generations didn't have their superman, due to the studio fucking up and not producing a big screen superman for decades, and deciding to make the 06 superman a homage/sequel to the 70s superman instead of an introduction for a new generation of viewers.
Obviously everyone at some level has heard of superman, its like saying you've never heard of mickey mouse or Jesus. But whole generations didn't have their superman, due to the studio fucking up and not producing a big screen superman for decades, and deciding to make the 06 superman a homage/sequel to the 70s superman instead of an introduction for a new generation of viewers.
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Kirun
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Fuck no. I think Superman was the only "original" WB channel cartoon I would watch. I liked Animaniacs and Batman as well, but they were originally from Fox Kids.
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haha yeah, all of WB Kidz! sucked pretty much. Except Superman
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