TAKP TLP Jan 1st 2025

piggvomit

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Haven't seen any posts about this. What are your thoughts? I think I'm going to play, may be worth it as long as rulesets are decent.
 

Korzax Stonehammer

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Haven't seen any posts about this. What are your thoughts? I think I'm going to play, may be worth it as long as rulesets are decent.
Zaide did a media thing about it a couple months ago. I don't think it's gonna be that big. There are not many people that will play EQ with that old of a client. There was a lot of moaning about QUARM when it first appeared. And they have the same client, but with QOL changes.

 
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Word

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Looks like they settled on 2box with six month unlocks. What are some good boxing combos for this era?
 
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your_mum

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FWIW, a mouse scroll only zeal plugin is allowed on TAKP/TLP - its on their wiki

ENC/CLR probably best 2 box for all eras... but im over charming

thinking DRU/BRD (idk about 2nd - really wanna do druid, anyone got ideas)... or SHD/SHM but meh...
 

your_mum

Trakanon Raider
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pretty low launch numbers but server is the most classic experience ever built imo... client isnt bad with takp zeal... duo box is cool
 

Chapell

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I mean there is Quarm, with better QQL.
Additionally, the lack of permanent legacy items is a self-defeating move
2box might help for a bit, until Quarm change his mind and do it too. (i bet they will with limitations.)
 
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your_mum

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takp devs aim for mac client support and that means no QOL features for PC client... kind of stupid, because you cant play takp anymore on an updated mac for last few years so the population for who actually plays on a mac is small. maybe their direction will change in the future.

but im not sure id say quarm is classic lol with all the custom content (especially the upcoming stuff with new races/classes)... not saying this is better than quarm, but id compare this more to a fresh p99 with 2 box.

legacy items arent in, like manastone/guise/etc - they were just gonna put in the crappy stuff
 

Araxen

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Quarm has way too much custom stuff now to be considered classic. To me it has jumped the shark.
 
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your_mum

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around 115 a night on average. not a complete ghost town but could use some more... its fun, 2 box is chill... still early in the server's life
 

Jysin

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takp devs aim for mac client support and that means no QOL features for PC client... kind of stupid, because you cant play takp anymore on an updated mac for last few years so the population for who actually plays on a mac is small. maybe their direction will change in the future.

but im not sure id say quarm is classic lol with all the custom content (especially the upcoming stuff with new races/classes)... not saying this is better than quarm, but id compare this more to a fresh p99 with 2 box.

legacy items arent in, like manastone/guise/etc - they were just gonna put in the crappy stuff
No need to cater to Macs. (Coming from a Mac user). Just use Parallels for Mac, install Dx and run all the modern clients without any issues whatsoever.
 

Nester

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Installed and rolled SK / SHM - Hit level 3 notice everyone is SK / SHAM

Rerolled Pally / Druid because why not, we did Ranger last time around.

Hit up Knuckles and Sonic in game and say HI. Might try the Feerot to Qeynos run atl Level 3 to swap out some gear someone gifted me. We shall see lol
 

Zaide

TLP Idealist
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around 115 a night on average. not a complete ghost town but could use some more... its fun, 2 box is chill... still early in the server's life
When they said they weren't doing Legacy items because it would upset the existing TAKP players I knew the server wasn't for me. I'd hate playing somewhere that bases it's rules/decisions on the population of another server.

It's unfortunate because I really like Elroz and I wanted to see this be a big hit, but this is basically what 90% of EQEmu devs end up doing.
 

Kithani

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When they said they weren't doing Legacy items because it would upset the existing TAKP players I knew the server wasn't for me. I'd hate playing somewhere that bases it's rules/decisions on the population of another server.

It's unfortunate because I really like Elroz and I wanted to see this be a big hit, but this is basically what 90% of EQEmu devs end up doing.
They're making the server they want to make IMO. I would imagine being a big "hit" in the emu community could come with it's own pain in the ass in the form of... the typical players of the emu community.
 

Nester

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When they said they weren't doing Legacy items because it would upset the existing TAKP players I knew the server wasn't for me. I'd hate playing somewhere that bases it's rules/decisions on the population of another server.

It's unfortunate because I really like Elroz and I wanted to see this be a big hit, but this is basically what 90% of EQEmu devs end up doing.

wasn’t that only due to a pending server merger years from now? Lusset is in !

regardless I went down your podcast rabbit hole yesterday and really enjoyed the one with cocain. I was in that crew that went to Eqmac from p99 and then joined Temerity with him, was so awesome to hear some of the names again and revisit those fun times! I had forgotten so much !
 

your_mum

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When they said they weren't doing Legacy items because it would upset the existing TAKP players I knew the server wasn't for me. I'd hate playing somewhere that bases it's rules/decisions on the population of another server.

It's unfortunate because I really like Elroz and I wanted to see this be a big hit, but this is basically what 90% of EQEmu devs end up doing.
yea like the guy said above, technically it's because TAKP is the server the TLP cycle will get merged into (kind of like the p99 blue/green thing that never happened), and in TAKP's case there were no manastones and guises. Well there are guises but they are handed out during anniversary event quests, so it seemed like a bad idea to have them from the TLP in the eventual merge. The manastone isnt a huge deal imo. I'm not sure their stance on some kunark legacy items, since they allow some for classic. Technically you can transfer to TAKP if you're over the TLP and go straight to PoP era.

It is a shame because TAKP supports a real EQ classic client and the server code is much better than eqemu and p99. Most of the hard core mechanics like spell resists and combat came from Torven who spent years doing it. A lot of this stuff is now in eqemu though or helped them update their versions. Guess I just feel bad for the TAKP and TLP devs because their selfless efforts (open sourcing it) got shafted hard by Quarm's success. But I agree, TAKP devs have shot themselves in the foot with some decisions.
 
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Zaide

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yea like the guy said above, technically it's because TAKP is the server the TLP cycle will get merged into (kind of like the p99 blue/green thing that never happened), and in TAKP's case there were no manastones and guises. Well there are guises but they are handed out during anniversary event quests, so it seemed like a bad idea to have them from the TLP in the eventual merge. The manastone isnt a huge deal imo. I'm not sure their stance on some kunark legacy items, since they allow some for classic. Technically you can transfer to TAKP if you're over the TLP and go straight to PoP era.

It is a shame because TAKP supports a real EQ classic client and the server code is much better than eqemu and p99. Most of the hard core mechanics like spell resists and combat came from Torven who spent years doing it. A lot of this stuff is now in eqemu though or helped them update their versions. Guess I just feel bad for the TAKP and TLP devs because their selfless efforts (open sourcing it) got shafted hard by Quarm's success. But I agree, TAKP devs have shot themselves in the foot with some decisions.
A lot of those TAKP players don’t want a big population. Individually people there are friendly but as a community it’s very insular and I think they don’t want a lot of outsiders coming in.
 

your_mum

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you're absolutely right about the community there lol... i think it just stems from eqmac, where the existing player base holds a huge grudge on the pc hack that allowed pc people to play... it wasnt long after that it was shut down (people think from the surplus of support/petitions). thats probably true, probably made some higher ups realize this thing was still running for 0 profit.

what's pretty funny is Secrets was the reason for the pc hack that fucked eqmac (influx of players) and Secrets is the reason that takp-tlp is fucked (took all the players) lmao
 
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