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Well, it would be roughly 150,000* Megatons worth of energy (the Tsar Bomba was 50 Megatons). It would no doubt by an ELE and a bad day...preferable to be incinerated at ground zero (before it ever reaches the ground no less) than hang around for all the ejecta and nastiness afterwords.

*originally calculated 2 trillion, but that kept nagging me...m/hr vs m/s makes a big difference. Don't physics half-asleep.
 
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It would probably break up close to reentry and get dozens of impacts instead of just one as well.

Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Shoemaker-Levy broke down during a previous passage, the time spent below Roche limit during an impact event would not be enough.
Well, it would be roughly 2 trillion Megatons worth of energy (the Tsar Bomba was 50 Megatons). It would no doubt by an ELE and a bad day...preferable to be incinerated at ground zero (before it ever reaches the ground no less) than hang around for all the ejecta and nastiness afterwords.
The Churyumov-Gerasimenko comet is about 5km diameter, which means:

- A 100km-wide crater
- Blast fallout 1000km from impact
- Firestorms: continental level (5000km range)
- No daylight for a couple months (and major destruction of plant life from no photosynthesis, taking a few decades to recover)
- Worldwide acid & toxic rains for about a year
- No ozone layer for a couple years

So, if you were on the same continent (or adjacent continent for seafall), you're fucked, otherwise, you possibly survive with the entire civilization being wiped.
 
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Shoemaker-Levy broke down during a previous passage, the time spent below Roche limit during an impact event would not be enough.

The Churyumov-Gerasimenko comet is about 5km diameter, which means:

- A 100km-wide crater
- Blast fallout 1000km from impact
- Firestorms: continental level (5000km range)
- No daylight for a couple months (and major destruction of plant life from no photosynthesis, taking a few decades to recover)
- Worldwide acid & toxic rains for about a year
- No ozone layer for a couple years

So, if you were on the same continent (or adjacent continent for seafall), you're fucked, otherwise, you possibly survive with the entire civilization being wiped.

That sounds unpleasant. Lets try to avoid that.
 
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Blue Dragon crew abort was tested today.


And then both rocket and crew capsule landed successfully.
 
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That's actually pretty awesome. Cool to at least present options if something fucks up while riding a controlled explosion into space.
 
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Assuming the density of this planet is about the same as our own would put it's radius at ~6920 km. The star is 12% of the sun's mass at 7.5 million km. The calculated tidal force proportionally compared to our own would only be a tad over 600x stronger. Surf's up!
 
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Assuming the density of this planet is about the same as our own would put it's radius at ~6920 km. The star is 12% of the sun's mass at 7.5 million km. The calculated tidal force proportionally compared to our own would only be a tad over 600x stronger. Surf's up!
It's enough to get the world tidally locked up, meaning you don't get real tides. Nor sunsets.
 
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Life exists in some crazy places on Earth, I don't think it should be surprising that there might only be certain areas of a planetary body that are inhabited on any given planet or moon by Humans. Its weird to think about, but life on Earth for us is constrained in a massive way compared to the entire surface. Living at the boundary zone would definitely share similarities to living at a high latitude, like in Alaska/Eskimos. Its only weird to someones perception if its not your daily life. If we came across a planet that was a spitting image of Earth, except its only continent was the size of the USA. If that continent was where Antarctica is on Earth that's useless to us for the purpose of a colony as Antarctica is today. Thus, anyone who lived on a planet with 2 stars, or one that did not rotate, or on this boundary zone. That would just be their normal, it wouldn't fuck them up in any appreciable way, and don't think that severely restricts what kind of life might exist necessarily or why that would be a bad thing.

If fucking paradise is found in a 5 mile deep crater on some world why wouldn't we want to necessarily colonize that?
 
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Would love to see a large project to boost a probe to some of these other stars that might have habitable planets.
 
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Life exists in some crazy places on Earth, I don't think it should be surprising that there might only be certain areas of a planetary body that are inhabited on any given planet or moon by Humans. Its weird to think about, but life on Earth for us is constrained in a massive way compared to the entire surface. Living at the boundary zone would definitely share similarities to living at a high latitude, like in Alaska/Eskimos. Its only weird to someones perception if its not your daily life. If we came across a planet that was a spitting image of Earth, except its only continent was the size of the USA. If that continent was where Antarctica is on Earth that's useless to us for the purpose of a colony as Antarctica is today. Thus, anyone who lived on a planet with 2 stars, or one that did not rotate, or on this boundary zone. That would just be their normal, it wouldn't fuck them up in any appreciable way, and don't think that severely restricts what kind of life might exist necessarily or why that would be a bad thing.

If fucking paradise is found in a 5 mile deep crater on some world why wouldn't we want to necessarily colonize that?

From https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1405/1405.1025.pdf

"...Life, if it manages to struggle along on such a planet, will be very hard or perhaps be underground. More likely a circular belt between the two sides - a sort of “twilight zone” - could be the place for life to evolve and flourish. In this dusk band around the planet, where star will be permanently hanging very low near the horizon or perhaps the stellar disc partially peeking above the horizon, with an ever-colourful red, yellow sky due to scattered light, the temperatures would be more moderate, right in between the hot and cold sides. However the heat on one side would cause the air to rise, creating a low pressure system, while the cold on the other side would cause the air to sink, creating a high pressure system. This would cause the planet to experience a constant and violent circulation of air, or, essentially a planet-wide hurricane. The constant air circulation would actually circulate the temperatures extensively and extremes in temperature would mitigate. Water cycles with huge rivers crossing from cold to hot side might make living there possible.

One important issue is the concept of time. With no day-night cycles, concept of time will be difficult to come. On Earth right from birth, we notice that many phenomena in nature are repetitive. This is due to our most basic natural clock, viz. the rotation of the Earth, causing the rising and setting of the Sun, giving rise to alternative periods of light and darkness. All human and animal life has evolved accordingly, keeping awake during the day-light but sleeping through the dark night. Even plants follow a daily rhythm. Of course some crafty beings have turned nocturnal to take advantage of the darkness, e.g., the beasts of prey, blood–sucking mosquitoes, thieves and burglars, and of course astronomers.

At least there might be no astronomers on a tidally-locked planet, as starry sky may not be known (except for some rumours about it by adventurer fellows daring to venture deeper into darker side of the planet). Secrets of the Universe − planets, stars, Milky-way, other galaxies −all these might remain very difficult, if not outright impossible, to unravel. Just imagine, it took us humans thousands of year to figure out that a few "wandering stars" are heavenly bodies (planets) in just our neighbourhood and all this happened in spite of the fact that a starry sky is daily visible most places for about half of the time (night). How will the inhabitants of a tidally-locked planet ever know about it when their everlasting "hot summer afternoons" never turn into cool evenings and dark nights?..."

I think I'll pass!
 
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Would love to see a large project to boost a probe to some of these other stars that might have habitable planets.

It would be a super long project. The fastest object man has ever made (the Juno spacecraft) travelled 165,000 miles per hour (45 miles per second) as it was pulled into orbit of Jupiter. The nearest stars are ~4 light-years away which would take damn near 16,000 years for us just to reach at that speed.

You would need (in orders of magnitude) significantly better propulsion to get there in any meaningful time. It would then take some pretty badass tech to be completely autonomous as communication would be a 4 year trip one way.
 
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