The Bear

Burns said:

I didn't hate last season, like a lot of people here seemed to, but this season is certainly sounding worse; making for zero motivation to start it up.

I agree that it doesn't look like they had any idea what to really do after season 1 where it didn't get soap opera-e, cliché, or have it look like they are stretching shit out because they want 10 seasons.

Best alternative I could think of is if they had made it into a show about going from nothing to eventually a three star Michelin restaurant, while following the original people as they try to increase their skill, even if that means that they are working at different restaurants. Like what I thought they were going to do when they showed Ritchie basically being an apprentice at a high end restaurant in season 2.

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I agree with the points here . The journey itself to Michelin would have been interesting to see if they focused on the staff and restaurant.

I am sure they didn't have a great plan past season 2, probably not expecting the demand.

Wife and I finished S4 and really enjoyed it. Sure, it's probably not quite as strong as S1-2, but we thought it was fucking miles better than S3. We'll give S5 a shot.

finally finished season 4 and while i didn't hate most of the episodes its definitely nowhere near the kind of show it was in season 1. Its always put family drama and crisis of identity in the center but season 4 really made it the only things the show is about. Which is a shame, as people have said above I went into season 1 expecting a show about how a rag tag group of people go from cooking sandwiches to becoming a michelin star restaurant and season 4 actively does its best to avoid those themes.

i don't give a fuck about sydney or her "journey", and season 4 is centered squarely around her boring ass character. If you wanna be a white guy flagellating yourself over slavery you should have at least made Marcus the main focus, he's a wildly more interesting character but he is on the fringes of season 4 still. Even Ebrahim's arc was far more fun and interesting than Sydney the Dull. but nope, hollywood writers rooms nowadays fetishize black women, next season she'll probably be a lesbian.

even the big "centerpiece" episode of this season, the wedding, brought in a ton of crazy big actor cameos (Brie Larson, Hartnett, etc) but it felt like an absolutely nothing burger episode.

This show has overstayed its welcome so much unless John Bernthal is doing an acting classes in a flashback I just can't manage to give a fuck about anything going on.