The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

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thx for link. cert process details weren't mentioned nor of the cuts, though, they seem to be moving in the right direction.

however, with loose/noCuration, I find it devalues the system altogether.
 
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Eyashusa_sl said:
These are the biggest reasons I'd stick with Microsoft regardless of always online requirements, which really don't bother me as much as they seem to be bothering almost everyone else in this thread.
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The whole deal with it thing is what really bothered me. I have been an Xbox guy this generation, but who knows going forward.
 
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We don't play a ton of games anymore outside of our PCs anymore and me playing some of the annual sports releases, so rumors of the next Xbox having HDMI passthrough like my GoogleTV had before I threw it in a drawer for being so god awful slow is the most interesting feature I've seen outed/rumored so far. Outside of that a machine capable of running all of the multiplatform games just as good if not better and it'll be pretty easy to go MS again for the foreseeable future.

The idea of walking into the room and going from DirecTV to Netflix, VUDU, Plex or start any game I own with just a few voice gestures, no boot up times or source switching, etc... that's a winner in our household. I'd probably pay $300 now for a current model 360 with a HDMI passthrough and a low power mode so it could just stay on all the time.

Should the always-on, always-online stuff be true, I am very interested in how that will be sold to gamers. It probably won't fly for just media consumers - though the size of that group is probably underappreciated by pure gamers given more media is consumed on 360s than games and the PS3 is the most used platform for Netflix. My guess will be features around accessibility, something like being able to play any of my games on compatible devices (Windows 8, phone and PC, of course
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) would be pretty cool since we already have 2 W8 PCs and a tablet.

Sony making some big strides in the right direction, interested in more detail though like which of the announced services will fall under the PS4 version of PSN+. If the HDMI passthrough stuff doesn't pan out I could easily see us getting one instead of the next Xbox.

Some silliness in this thread, but nothing like what I've seen elsewhere, like people already crying foul about being monitored by MS 24/7 when they have kids in the house, citing the Patriot act as it now being a way to be watched by the government, completely objecting that they'd do it for any consumer benefit at all, but only to notice things like a Pepsi on the table so they can show an ad, etc.
 
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But seriously, when does your internet ever go down for any longer than it takes to just reboot your modem/router? My internet is only down when my power is out, which is maybe once every few years.. and if your power is out you aren't doing shit, regardless.

Like I said earlier, always-on DRMs problem isn't the local users connection, 99% of the time it's the servers on the game/publishers end.
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Where I live, you can get 384 kbit/s DSL or up to 50 MBit/s LTE.
Last september someone fucked up the fiber link to the nearest LTE tower (the only one that's within range for us) and we were without mobile and internet for almost a week.
 
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The Ancient_sl said:
Only a Sony Homer would say this. For one, PS3 doesn't have it too, there is no HBOGo app, no ESPN360, no Vevo(you probably haven't tried this, but seeded music video playlists are awesome). For two, the 360s UI experience is far superior.
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Way too big a generalization there. For example, I only use Netflix and streaming of Matroska files from my PC via UMS, and the PS3 is vastly superior at both of those things. And while I don't have a 360, I have used one on many occasions, and I hate the Dashboard compared to XMB.
 
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http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/

So yeah... Pretty much every negative rumor tossed around the past 3 months are confirmed to be complete bullshit. Seems they came from people commenting on functionality of dev kits, which was kinda what I assumed. Was just a matter of the internet having to be outraged at something. Rationally thinking about the business effects of all those rumors being true never added up at all.

Anyway, this new Xbox sounds pretty damn amazing right now. The wife is going to be mad when I buy this and the PS4 when they release.
 
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Nothing is confirmed to be anything, negative or positive, until they hold their announcement circle jerk.
 
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That doesn't even begin to cover every negative rumor and none of that is verifiable unless MS actually makes any announcements.

It also doesn't change the fact that Microsoft has absolutelynothingcompelling via exclusive games anymore and that the entire indie community is flocking to Sony over them due to their bullshit.

Even if every single negative rumor about the X720 is false, Microsoft's going to have to pull a whole lot of exclusivity out of their ass for the system to matter at all.
 
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I always ended up buying more indie games over the course of the year than I do the big blockbuster titles. This year has been great so far for releases, as well as Q4 of last year, but the fact that the PS3 had games like flower, flow, journey etc kept luring me away. The fact the xbox won't have many games like that is disheartening.
 
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Sean_sl said:
That doesn't even begin to cover every negative rumor and none of that is verifiable unless MS actually makes any announcements.

It also doesn't change the fact that Microsoft has absolutelynothingcompelling via exclusive games anymore and that the entire indie community is flocking to Sony over them due to their bullshit.

Even if every single negative rumor about the X720 is false, Microsoft's going to have to pull a whole lot of exclusivity out of their ass for the system to matter at all.
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I think the days of console exclusives are long gone, at least as far 3rd parties go. So that just leaves the 1st party output, of which Sony has a larger and more diverse portfolio. MS has fewer 1st party studios, but some would argue the IP's they own hold more weight. At that point it comes down to which 1st party IP's/Studios you prefer.

Im just glad this gen is looking to be a good ole fashioned slugfest with both companies really brining it. The drama should be epic!
 
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Thorne_sl said:
I think the days of console exclusives are long gone, at least as far 3rd parties go. So that just leaves the 1st party output, of which Sony has a larger and more diverse portfolio. MS has fewer 1st party studios, but some would argue the IP's they own hold more weight. At that point it comes down to which 1st party IP's/Studios you prefer.

Im just glad this gen is looking to be a good ole fashioned slugfest with both companies really brining it. The drama should be epic!
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What? That's not even remotely true. There's still a ton of third party console exclusives, especially from Japan. At least 7 of the new games coming out that I will have bought this year will be PS3 exclusives from third-party companies.
 
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Sean_sl said:
What? That's not even remotely true. There's still a ton of third party console exclusives, especially from Japan. At least 7 of the new games coming out that I will have bought this year will be PS3 exclusives from third-party companies.
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I honestly didn't know that. But admittedly I don't much care for the japan centric type games. Nothing wrong with them, just not my thing. Would it be fair to say western developed 3rd parties are all but gone?
 
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Thorne_sl said:
I honestly didn't know that. But admittedly I don't much care for the japan centric type games. Nothing wrong with them, just not my thing. Would it be fair to say western developed 3rd parties are all but gone?
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On the western side? I'd say it's fair forbigstudios, but definitelynotfor small devs/indies. There's a lot of titles that are exclusive to either XBLA or PSN, though the XBLA titles are all ending up on PC after a month or two too. I think we'll see a lot more PSN exclusives in the future due to the current atmosphere in that part of the industry.

You're terribly misinformed about exclusivity.
 
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Exclusivity is highly irrelevant to the majority of us whom end up buying multiple consoles anyway. Incentives from publishers for next generation exclusives are going to need to be HUGE to keep developers tied to one platform now that they're all going to be x86. As a user, I feel it's all about feature sets of the box. That said, the X720's set-top stuff is looking a lot more compelling than the PS4 share-centric model.
 
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Lenas_sl said:
Exclusivity is highly irrelevant to the majority of us whom end up buying multiple consoles anyway. Incentives from publishers for next generation exclusives are going to need to be HUGE to keep developers tied to one platform now that they're all going to be x86. As a user, I feel it's all about feature sets of the box. That said, the X720's set-top stuff is looking a lot more compelling than the PS4 share-centric model.
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I disagree, because at this point I won't even end up buying multiple consoles due to the lack of incentives to buy a X720. Plus due to how Japan's market and culture works I don't see PS3/PS4/etc exclusives from the developers that do it ever going away.

Exclusivity and games are the #1 important thing to me when buying a console and if a console doesn't have games that no one else has (that are also compelling enough to buy) then it's a completely irrelevant system to me. There is not a single thing about the X720's feature sets that are the least bit compelling to me that I won't also be able to do on my PS4 or PC either.
 
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Lenas_sl said:
Exclusivity is highly irrelevant to the majority of us whom end up buying multiple consoles anyway. Incentives from publishers for next generation exclusives are going to need to be HUGE to keep developers tied to one platform now that they're all going to be x86. As a user, I feel it's all about feature sets of the box. That said, the X720's set-top stuff is looking a lot more compelling than the PS4 share-centric model.
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I doubt MS is banking on people owning multiple consoles. Exclusivity is far from irrelevant. It is 1st party titles that Sony has over MS in spades. Of course thats my personal opinion.
 
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Sean_sl said:
There is not a single thing about the X720's feature sets that are the least bit compelling to me that I won't also be able to do on my PS4 or PC either.
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Maybe not compelling to you, but the set-top features that are reported is something that the PS4 wont be able to do, and not many people are set up to do with their PC. If I can turn my Xbox into a DRV and tell Cox to go fuck themselves, that's gonna save me a good chunk of change each month. It's a pretty cool feature. That plus IntelliRoom (which hopefully gets renamed) make the next MS console a pretty sure-thing for me. After Sony's huge fuckups with the PS3 there's no way they are going to immediately get my support behind the PS4, gonna wait and see how it pans out for a few months before I purchase.
 
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I'd hazard a guess that Xbros will lose more game time from the Nextbox shitting the bed than any online only shit. Either way, PS Quad for me.
 
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