If Warren Moon is in there then I don't see why McNabb couldn't be. Moon is sort of an anomaly though. I don't know how many QBs are in there that never won a superbowl but it wasn't many and McNabb is no Dan Marino.
Oh god oh god please do, I want the Bucs to trade their pick away and RG3 the fuck out of the Eagles. They need more help than just QB, so rebuilding via the Eagles' stupidity would be glorious.
The HoF is not NFL exclusive, it is the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So Moon's CFL numbers are also taken into account when he was elected.
Wow, is that true? I never would have imagined they took into account other leagues.
You must be related to the Ryan family. Kevin Gilbride was an excellent fit for Warren Moon set of skills.
Near 2:1 TD to INT ratio. 2 Super Bowl wins and another appearance. 10-4 in the playoffs. One of the best(and most overlooked) rookie seasons ever...PRE-passing retardation. 90+ rating 9 of 11 years. One of the highest yards per attempt ever. He's always been a very efficient as a passer he just wasn't much of a stat compiler until the last two seasons.
White only cracked 1,000 yards once, yet was still 5th in rushing that year, and only sawonePro-Bowl. Not that the Pro-Bowl has ever really meant much, but it does give yousomeclout as a player. He didn't even hit 5k yards for his career. Gary Brown was virtually the same. Sure, they had "limited" roles in the run and shoot, but let's not pretend like these guys were that great. Even in their "good" years, the Oilers were always solidly middle-bottom middle of the pack in rushing yards.
Headline should be: Jeff Garcia desperate to be relevant again.
Pardee was more a CEO/Figurehead type of HC. That is why he had the likes of Gilbride and Buddy Ryan as his coordinators.
I don't pretend that they were great. They were just good for the roles that they played in the R&S.
At least Ben sometimes had the excuse of having average players around him some of those sub-par years. You want to talk about a guy who was sub-par in the playoffs with assloads of talent? Look no further than Steve fucking Young. Jesus Christ, some the the teams that guy had were insane. I'm still convinced he would've won another title in '98 had Hearst not broken his ankle on the first play from scrimmage against the Falcons, but the 49ers squandered a veritable shitload of potential in the early-late 90s. It's no surprise that not only do we have the most NFC Championship appearances, but also the most losses.
You were discounting the significance of Hall-of-Famers on defenses by indicating that a team with "only 2" could have a great defense. "Only 2" hall-of-famers is well above average.
Was a pretty competitive time though in the NFC then during the 90's. Cowboys winning 3 titles, Farve emerging with Green Bay. Ben always had that stud D helping to back him up too, although not taking anything away from the guy, I think he is a HoFer already even if that makes me sad. Ben has the weird fact of playing like shit in his 2 Super Bowl wins (aside from the game winning throw against Arizona) and having a decent game in his SB loss. I think at one point through the first half against Green Bay Ben had like 1 TD and 5 picks in 10 quarters of SB play.
Sure, the NFC was more competitive, but look at the defenses Young had. From '91-'98 (Young's years) they were top 5 in point differential every single season and had a stretch of 1st from '92-'95. Except '93 and '98, they were Top 5 in points allowed every single year between '91-'98. Sure, their offense was top 3 every single year from 91-98 (except 97, where they were 5th), including a stretch of 1st from '92-'95, but people don't realize how good their defense was those same years.
