The E-cig Thread

mkopec_sl said:

Title changed, now get the fuck out.

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I bring valid points and ask questions. You're the one flat out claiming this is wrong and keep crapping about it. Last time I checked this was a forum, not a blog. Send me a pm about specific post I'd be happy to take it from there. For now, this thread is in product reviews and the title is Thread: "E-cigarettes, vaping your way to quitting...".

Now, on topic, let's hear some more stories. Please? How much more on topic can one be than this?

Can someone change the thread title so Izo has no reason to keep spamming his sanctimonious bs?

Anyway a few months on and I'm a huge fan. None of the bad smell/taste, the convenience is awesome, I feel much healthier and can breath much easier, even with how minimal my smoking was beforehand. It's cheap as balls too, I've bought 5 different 15ml tubes of liquid for $5 each and used up less than 2 of them. Flip side is that my overall nicotine intake has definitely increased, but without the bad smell/cost/(probably not most of) the health effects, I don't see that as much as a problem. A clear win, and I'm recommending them to all the smokers I know, though I've yet to convince anyone.

Only major complaint is the atomizers in my eCab. Didn't realize they'd need maintenance so quickly, my first one started smelling like burnt plastic one day, tried cleaning it but it's fucked and doesn't even work now. Second I managed to clean in time, but it still gives off bad smells occasionally and I'm having a hard time finding a site which sells the right ones.

I need to read the rest of this thread and see what you guys recommend. I tried a blu original and it tasted (and felt) like I was inhaling coffee flavored dust straight into my lungs. It was strange and not at all enjoyable. I need that burn!

Azrayne_sl said:

Can someone change the thread title so Izo has no reason to keep spamming his sanctimonious bs?

Anyway a few months on and I'm a huge fan. None of the bad smell/taste, the convenience is awesome, I feel much healthier and can breath much easier, even with how minimal my smoking was beforehand. It's cheap as balls too, I've bought 5 different 15ml tubes of liquid for $5 each and used up less than 2 of them. Flip side is that my overall nicotine intake has definitely increased, but without the bad smell/cost/(probably not most of) the health effects, I don't see that as much as a problem. A clear win, and I'm recommending them to all the smokers I know, though I've yet to convince anyone.

Only major complaint is the atomizers in my eCab. Didn't realize they'd need maintenance so quickly, my first one started smelling like burnt plastic one day, tried cleaning it but it's fucked and doesn't even work now. Second I managed to clean in time, but it still gives off bad smells occasionally and I'm having a hard time finding a site which sells the right ones.

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Interesting. How much would you say your nicotine uptake has increased? What is the concentration of the 15 ml tubs? What dosage do you think keeps you a non-smoker? Can you vape non-nicotine fluids and not feel the withdrawal symptoms for periods?
Besides all the obvious beneficial effects of not smoking, good for you btw, have you noticed an increase in tremor, mood swings, tinnitus or similar indication of nerve poisoning?

Azrayne_sl said:

Can someone change the thread title so Izo has no reason to keep spamming his sanctimonious bs?

Anyway a few months on and I'm a huge fan. None of the bad smell/taste, the convenience is awesome, I feel much healthier and can breath much easier, even with how minimal my smoking was beforehand. It's cheap as balls too, I've bought 5 different 15ml tubes of liquid for $5 each and used up less than 2 of them. Flip side is that my overall nicotine intake has definitely increased, but without the bad smell/cost/(probably not most of) the health effects, I don't see that as much as a problem. A clear win, and I'm recommending them to all the smokers I know, though I've yet to convince anyone.

Only major complaint is the atomizers in my eCab. Didn't realize they'd need maintenance so quickly, my first one started smelling like burnt plastic one day, tried cleaning it but it's fucked and doesn't even work now. Second I managed to clean in time, but it still gives off bad smells occasionally and I'm having a hard time finding a site which sells the right ones.

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Replace your crappy ecab with an iclear30. Trust me. Do it. And if you got the extra cash upgrade that ego bat with a provari.

I prefer Bottom Coil devices cause wicking is a non issue but its a trade off for a cooler vape. Iclear are much like Phoenix style and are top coil which means the coils being on top gives a nice warm vape. Wicking can be an issue when fluid in the tank gets low and you will start to get whats called dry hits which are not tasty.

Here are the Bottom Coil style tanks :

Kanger Protank 2



EVOD



iclear30

Which you can see the wicks hang down so the fluid has to travel up to give a proper wicking. The coil is on top which gives a nice warm vape to it.



Most of these you can buy replacement coils when you cant get any more life out them. However I found that if you rinse the coil and wick under some hot water and let dry. You can attach it to your battery and pulse fire it and it will self clean the coils. You will notice the gunk to start to burn away and you can get more life out of them as well. Its just a matter of preference of course and there are a ton of other options out there as well. You can get into as far as rebuildable atomizers which you can make your own coil and wick out of countless of materials out there.

Interesting. How much would you say your nicotine uptake has increased?

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Hard to say, it's hard to monitor how much I'm puffing on the ecig during the day, and it varies a lot depending on what I'm doing. But before the swap it was rare that I'd have more than 6 - 8 cigs a day unless I was drinking, so 'more' isn't really saying much.

What is the concentration of the 15 ml tubs?

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18mg/ml.

Can you vape non-nicotine fluids and not feel the withdrawal symptoms for periods?

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Never tried, this is so easy and cheap I don't see the point in ordering non-nicotine fluids.

Besides all the obvious beneficial effects of not smoking, good for you btw, have you noticed an increase in tremor, mood swings, tinnitus or similar indication of nerve poisoning?

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Can't say I have, no.

Replace your crappy ecab with an iclear30. Trust me. Do it. And if you got the extra cash upgrade that ego bat with a provari.

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Cheers, I'll look into it.

People using the nicotine e-cigarettes quit at a slightly better rate compared with those using the patch, though. Some 7.3% using the e-cigarettes abstained from smoking traditional cigarettes compared with the 5.8% who stopped with the patch. About 4.1% stopped with just the placebo e-cigarettes.

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I'm kind of bothered by this language here. Does someone only count as 'abstaining' if they smoke absolutely no cigarettes at all? The way it's worded makes absolutely no mention of the actual level of tobacco intake, for all we could know they're tossing the people who smoked a cigarette when out drinking with friends and then went back to the other option in with the people who tried the patch/e-cig, hated it, then went back to a pack a day.

That's the problem with this issue, I'm getting the vibe of a lot of manipulative spin on the science to push agendas. I'd be very skeptical of any study which finds e-cigs dangerous or ineffective until it can be conclusively proven to lack any kind of bias or influence from the tobacco or pharmaceutical industries. You'd have to be extremely naive to think they'd take the rise of such a strong competition lying down.

On another note, has anyone here found that they get dehydrated much faster while vaping with e-cigs? I've been paying careful attention and it definitely seems to be the vaping, not a coincidence, but I can't figure out what would be causing it? Google seems to suggest I'm not the only one.

Azrayne_sl said:

On another note, has anyone here found that they get dehydrated much faster while vaping with e-cigs? I've been paying careful attention and it definitely seems to be the vaping, not a coincidence, but I can't figure out what would be causing it? Google seems to suggest I'm not the only one.

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PG & VG both draw water from your body to the surface (i.e. mouth, tongue etc) as you inhale and push it out when you exhale (water vapor), so as you vape, you're technically losing water, thus you need to stay hydrated.

PG seems to have a drier hit, while VG has a more humid feeling in the throat. if you're using just PG e liquid try a 50/50 mix, or 100% VG.

I use 80/20 vg/pg, prefer the smoother feel of the vg, might try going to 100% vg, cheers.

After 18 years, finally Cig/Dip free and have been for over 5 months. Had a close friend of mine turn me onto E-Cigs and haven't looked back once.

I stalk this forums more often than not and wanted to post up and offer my advice on anything from batteries, juices, vendors, mods or even setting things up / getting started.

Pm me or toss and post up !

And

Grats on kicking this traditional cig habbit !

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