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Yeah I suppose that's a pretty good alternate view on the topic. It's a bit different than other companies if it's sub-gated.
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Tuco
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My guess would be that it's harder than they thought to port the game to consoles. They've been planning on switching to B2P/cash shop/whatever since the game came out.
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Yeah I was thinking it had to do with the hardware transition, not many games on xbox fit a couple hundred players on a screen like that. I wonder how it's going to work.
Tuco what's PRX's input on the new upcoming ESO stuff? Any whispers?
Inventory management is still a big pain in the ass in this game. I can't imagine how annoying inventory management will be in the console version with the current UI in the PC version. The console UI will need to be completely redesigned IMO to make it more user friendly.
I think your last sentence is probably accurate.
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How are 10% perks helping you as a player who has been invested so long? Without knowing what is exactly being sold on the market (1500 Crowns per month) Have they made that available yet? I am interested to see what the "convenience" items on the market look like. When would one find out about that market and what will be on it?
I believe in the past you have said something along the lines of having fun in a MMO is largely influenced by who you are playing with. PVP gameplay is still pretty much the same so if you liked or disliked the PVP in Cyrodil I imagine your opinion on PVP now will still be the same.
There are only a couple of changes in PVP I am aware of. In 1.6 the AOE cap is getting removed. Now if your group is stupid enough to clump together then everyone will get hit with AOE. Another change is that blocking will now help protect against magicka attacks. Right now it only protects against stamina attacks.
Don't know when you quit playing but now stamina builds have been buffed and compete better against magicka builds.
Since you like to play the auction house game my guess is you won't like the guild trader system.
Grinding for EXP in Craglorn has been heavily nerfed across the board so that takes away your preferred leveling method.
Based on what I know of your playstyle, for you I would say don't come back until you see how Cyrodil city PVP is going to work.
If you only play one main character whose skills are already maxed out, the 10% perk will allow you to accumulate Champion Points 10% faster.
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Would that be worth $14.99 a month for a 10% boost? I don't know how fast/slow accumulating champion points is currently.
Can't answer that question without completely speculating. The details of the CP system won't be known until next week and even then you still won't know if it's worth the $15 until the B2P client is released.
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No. I've seen nothing and heard nothing positive about ESO from PRX or the PvP community. The last thing I heard about a month ago was, "Cyrodiil is basically the same.". IMO, ESO is fundementally broken and the team responsible for handling it now is incapable of fixing the massive problems it has.
Besides that, as a whole PRX only plays new games together. Very rarely will more than a few go back and play an old game. Even huge expansions for existing games don't garner much interest. We play games at release competitively and generally once we're done the core members and leadership move on and never come back.
The perks seem kind of thin unless there are some interesting things on the market.
This is good.
I think I'll pass on the PS4 version. Not really interested in paying $20 for something I already have.
As far as the "bonuses" go for subbing, /snore.
10% across the board isn't that much, and considering other than trying to catch people who've been playing since launch (not sure why anyone would want to do that now), there isn't really any reason to levelfasterthe way I see it, and it's not really that fast when you look at it. I guess the cash shop money is fine if you're into that kind of thing, but in a game like this I don't see the big deal between a speckled horse and a chocolate one; they can't really sell things too crazy or immersion bust. That leaves a lot of limited things in a world like Tamriel.
Not feeling this one. TOR does it too.
It makes more sense tonotpay, start a brand new guy, level up normally and by the time you hit max (because you're not leveling 10%), the DLC they come out with will be on sale instead of buying it out of the gate. DCUO is a perfect example... if someone starts now, they get those DLC packages for cheap because they are older. If you've got a bunch of other Free/B2P folks running around you shouldn't have too much problem getting groups to do stuff. Besides, I'm sure they left that fucked-up guild system where you can join 100 guilds so I expect a lot of spamming"Doing old content shit, who wants to go?"all day long.
I think the biggest difference between paying in a game like this vs a game like TOR is that TOR is heavily raid-centric endgame and ESO is not. So it stands that if you like raiding (which is that games focus) you sub so you can do it without restrictions. ESO is (still?) PvP based/centric at it's heart so there isn't any cost to go to Cyrodil so if you want to mass PvP, don't sub and just level-up in the zerg or whatever.
Probably end up rerolling a new guy on different side, then when that maxed out, level another class in a different faction. Wait for the bargain DLC and get that.
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Yeah that's where I am wondering if they reduce XP needed for non subscribers. (Like SWTOR) But we will see soon enough I guess.
Props to Rescorla for being a good poster here lately
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Probably not if you just want the 10%. It will help with making money, and gaining champion points for me, but not a big deal. The main reason I am currently planning to keep my sub is so that I don't have to worry about what DLC I own. Now, if it turns out they just release a big DLC pack once every few months, it might be smarter to just buy the DLC packs as they come. If, however they are constantly dropping small DLC all the time, I'd rather just have the sub and have access to anything I feel like. I'll have to wait and see how they do things.