Gavinmad
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What a surprise, a Christian flip-flopping between literal and figurative interpretations of bible stories as it suits them.
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The Fermi Paradox -- Where is everybody?
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What a surprise, a Christian flip-flopping between literal and figurative interpretations of bible stories as it suits them.
Sanrith Descartes
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So our real estate developers would have someplace to go build when they run out of room here on Earth.
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Sanrith Descartes
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Sanrith Descartes
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There is a point when you try to grasp that the Universe is still actually expanding from the big bang, and everything including us are still moving outward and then wonder what happens when it all finishes. And then I realize that is beyond my brainpower and I take solace in the fact I'll be dead way before it becomes a thing.
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ShakyJake
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Current theory is that it never "finishes". The universe will continue to expand forever, all matter will have decayed into elementary particles, and black holes will evaporate.
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Sanrith Descartes
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This translates to me as a bunch of scientists saying "we have no idea, so we will go with "it just keeps going forever"."
Which then has to mean that space is infinite. I'm not saying it isnt, but I am saying that infinite is pretty fucking big.
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It's based on our current understanding of physics and evidence. There could be a big crunch but the evidence is that the universe's expansion is accelerating.
And the universe isn't infinite. It's a finite region of space that's expanding.
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Sentagur
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Did anyone mention this yet?
What is there on Earth to make any advanced space faring civilization want to set foot here?
Minerals? Water? All obtainable very easily all over the galaxy and they would not be tainted with the pesky biomass.
We are at best a curiosity (if thats even a concept for aliens) best watched from a far distance.
Out of billions of pristine planets out there we are the one that has developed "mold". Would you want to pick up a moldy apple in the grocery store out of all the others?
What is there on Earth to make any advanced space faring civilization want to set foot here?
Minerals? Water? All obtainable very easily all over the galaxy and they would not be tainted with the pesky biomass.
We are at best a curiosity (if thats even a concept for aliens) best watched from a far distance.
Out of billions of pristine planets out there we are the one that has developed "mold". Would you want to pick up a moldy apple in the grocery store out of all the others?
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can be applied to why aliens haven't visited us. People fail to grasp how big the universe actually is.
Also, to advanced intelligence we are nothing more than ants. So, how often has mankind thought of introducing our amazing technology (compared to ants) to an ant colony.
Also, to advanced intelligence we are nothing more than ants. So, how often has mankind thought of introducing our amazing technology (compared to ants) to an ant colony.
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ShakyJake
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I think we'll discover that simple life is common, but intelligence is extremely rare. And if there does exist an advanced, intelligent civilization in our galaxy, it will be millions of years more advanced. But we're making the assumption that aliens would be similar to what we see in Star Wars or Trek. But I think, in reality, whatever technology they possess will be completely undetectable to us. So they could be "everywhere" but we'd have no way of knowing.
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pharmakos
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pharmakos
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Space is infinite, but that doesn't mean that it's "big" because it's not actually ANYTHING -- it's space.
Sanrith Descartes
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This is why I dont study this shit. Give me income statements and balance sheets.
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Lambourne
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Pretty good overview of the timeline involved. The era of industrial technology (say 1800-now) is less than nothing on any real timescale.
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Putting Time In Perspective - UPDATED — Wait But Why
Putting massive amounts of time in perspective is incredibly hard for humans, so we made this graphic.
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Yeah, we're still a weak PoV.
Snowballs with rocks inside? some assholes are hiding nearby. But piss-ant lifespan nerds that want to terraform mars, they look at comets like "hurr durr, Oort cloud theory!"
The virgin homo paradox versus the galactic chad panspermia.
Advanced civilizations won't even look at a youtube video if it isn't at least 10 hours.
Snowballs with rocks inside? some assholes are hiding nearby. But piss-ant lifespan nerds that want to terraform mars, they look at comets like "hurr durr, Oort cloud theory!"
The virgin homo paradox versus the galactic chad panspermia.
Advanced civilizations won't even look at a youtube video if it isn't at least 10 hours.
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Ukerric
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Life seems to be a not-so-low probability event. Commonplace chemistry generates very fast all the necessary basic of our life chemistry. Then you have clay and the like that are extremely good candidates for creating self-enclosed biochemistry factories - protolife, in other terms. Plus, it looks like, in geological terms, life appeared on our world very, very fast, meaning it's either praticularly favorable, or it's easy.
Compared to this, the evolution of complex life (capable of massive data storage and mutation and all that) appears to be more unlikely.
So a significant number of scientists expect that "habitable planets" will be essentially giant bacterial mats, and nothing more.
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Ukerric
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Well, before Lucifer (whose name litterally means "bringer of light", in case you didn't notice... he's the christian equivalent of Prometheus), God was keeping them as domesticated pets. Then the pets dissented, and God had to expel them fast, or he'd get overwhelmed (the other apple... you have the capacity to learn, then you're immortal and can learn forever, fuck it, I'm screwed).
I always love the story of the Garden of Eden, because it's the clearest evidence of God's malfeasance in the Bible.
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