TJT
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How does the Weird commander explain the dyke handmaid's disappearance? Lydia prob dead.
The Handmaid's Tale
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How does the Weird commander explain the dyke handmaid's disappearance? Lydia prob dead.
Drinsic
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Sure it works, but you risk it getting old if all we ever see is June in service to the Waterfords, continually finding ways to undermine them. Like TJT said, how do you not get executed at this point? Are she and Serena going to turn into Thelma and Louise, running around and killing all the rapist commanders?
You can still follow Nick as a point of view to see what's going on in Gilead. Of course, between him stopping Waterford and Rita giving the fuck you eyes from the bottom of the stairs, I don't see how any of them avoid the noose. Lawrence seems like an interesting commander to follow. Furthermore, you could introduce the Waterfords' new handmaid (if June left) to view and experience the aftermath. There's plenty of things you could do.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but if she's seriously going to go back to being a handmaid, that just sounds like the writers don't know how to progress her story. Similar to every season of silicon valley (huge success/breakthrough in every finale, but oh damn, back to square one in the next season).
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LiquidDeath
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I just can't take this show seriously after the finale. The second to last episode was fantastic, and the finale showing the women standing up for the right for their daughters to read was great, but then they had to bring it back around to this fucking stupid plot line that June is some bad ass. There is currently no goddamn reason that she hasn't been hanged already. She has caused so much trouble for the very powerful Waterfords that she should have been killed several times over and you can only suspend your disbelief so long before it just gets Walking Dead level of stupid. They killed a 15 year old for running away from an arranged marriage for fuck's sake. The idea that June's Islamic master who allowed his wife's finger to be cut off wouldn't just off her and get a less fucking ridiculous handmaiden is preposterous.
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Vandyn
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Ah but you see that's the rub. Fred has a certain affection for June. It's his weakness. How do you explain how he still wants her in the house? She slaps him across the face and after that not only wants her to stay but says he may still try to get her to see her daughter some more, despite how much of a clusterfuck that turned into the first time. Fred has been protecting her from day one, even above his own wife. The fact that Fred has whipped and cut Serena's finger off and done basically nothing to June says who he favors right there.
As far as June sticking around, it may be that she knows Fred isn't going to let anything happen to her if she stays. Whereas if she runs off, something may happen to her or worse, her daughter.
LiquidDeath
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If they wanted me to believe this then they should have swapped the actresses.
Seriously though, aside from her belief in fundamentalist religion, Serena's character is far more of a badass than June. In every way. The idea that as the commander became more zelous (evidenced after the bombing) he would find June ever more enticing is ridiculous and not found in any character traits shown to us in the show.
Also, June is an ugly cow compared to Serena.
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Ome
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Maybe Waterford is attracted to that which he cant fully control. He lives for the thrill of the hunt. Lets be honest many men have done stupid shit for pussy. Its not that big of a reach seeing Waterfords actions.
I really hope they wrap this up in season 3. Id like for Mexico to invade Gilead where they would then welcome all the immigrants to go live in Mexico. June would then be reunited with her daughters at the border as they pan over to a man saying, "Families belong together", as he stares into the camera...que music!
I really hope they wrap this up in season 3. Id like for Mexico to invade Gilead where they would then welcome all the immigrants to go live in Mexico. June would then be reunited with her daughters at the border as they pan over to a man saying, "Families belong together", as he stares into the camera...que music!
Frenzied Wombat
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Just binged the 2nd season and pretty much this.
Having been forced to read the stupid book back in Canadia high school twenty something years ago, I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of the book is contained in season 1, while season 2 is pretty much 90% new material.
While the 2nd season starts out alright despite the stupid current day political allegory shit (student activists, Qu'ran under the bed, LGBT stuff-- none of which was in book) it jumps the shark in the last four episodes or so. In light of the punishing treatment the Handmaid's receive for the slightest transgressions, June's obstinance coming out of nowhere and being tolerated makes no sense, especially after she has the fucking baby. If Commander Waterford's affection for her is the reason why her treason is endured, then it wasn't depicted in a way that makes it convincing. Also, Serena's RELENTLESS quest for a baby at all costs suddenly taking a 180 also made no sense. I don't give a crap if she realized that her Gilead Dream was crap, I just don't see her giving up her life's dream, let alone to someone that might be gunned down during her escape. Finally, the whole whitebeard quacky Commander forget his name) freeing both handmaid's out of nowhere felt unrealistic and super anti-climactic. We watch June spend 2 seasons trying to escape Gilead and then it just drops on her lap out of nowhere, effortlessly?
For season 3 they are going to have to come up with some serious plot armor to explain how she won't be swinging from the gallows.
Kuriin
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I don't know about you, but, Serena was very, VERY relatable. She wanted a child more than anything else and then June finally made her realize that growing up in that society would do more harm than good. Especially after when they killed the girl and her boyfriend.
chaos
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I think they wanted June to stay because they have this big multi-season arc planned and they handled that decision pretty well. Initially, she made the hard decision to leave her daughter. Then she was recaptured, and she got to see Hannah, and at that point she couldn't. I get that and I think it works. There are some issues in the season, especially towards the end. And yeah, it's hard to see how the story progresses at this point when she should just be summarily executed. That's just a matter of a story that makes sense.
I think the bigger problem with this show is that it is just nonstop misery porn. They say they have plans for 10 seasons, I cant imagine watching 10 seasons of ritualistic rape, enslavement, and oppression.
I think the bigger problem with this show is that it is just nonstop misery porn. They say they have plans for 10 seasons, I cant imagine watching 10 seasons of ritualistic rape, enslavement, and oppression.
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Some victories brought on by a resistance movement would make the misery a little more tolerable. GoT is pretty bleak but breaks it up with progress and character growth. Season 2 was definitely spinning its wheels too much, so hopefully it doesn't get worse if they try to stretch it out to fit a large number of seasons.
Kiroy
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I've got to imagine canada + hawaii will take over a few season, plus expand on what's going on in the outer territories where they are cleaning up some sort of waste or fallout. No idea how June won't get caught but I'm guessing she's going to be heading up a better underground railroad.
10 seasons seems insane though.
chaos
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The stakes have to get higher, the actions more extreme. Maybe I'm being naive but u have a hard time imagining how they make the Gilead government more extreme. What's after slavery and rape and maiming? They've already gone that extra mile and made even the women complicit in the actions of the commanders. I just don't see where it goes from here.
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The theocracy could be a coverup for something worse like genetics programs to fix the birth issues resulting in piles of dead fetuses from women turned into birthing-pods (maybe generating the pollution in the colonies?), but they'd lose their much of their thematic message of the show if they went there.
Cybsled
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If the Counter-Gilead insurgency began to make ground, I would imagine the Government could get much more extreme. Think Nazis during WW2 when they would literally purge entire towns because of insurgencies or even suspected insurgencies.
TJT
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The thing that bothers me is that the fertility situation is worldwide. Everyone needs fertile women to perpetuate the human race. Yet only Gilead is created from this social stress. Canada is getting on just like present day.
If it is this huge international crisis other countries would also be doing relatively insane shit about it.
If it is this huge international crisis other countries would also be doing relatively insane shit about it.
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Vandyn
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I think in season 1 you saw a little of acknowledgement of this point, that making the handmaids go crazy is not a good thing. There is also a lot of naive people running Gilead.
LiquidDeath
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So apparently when the finale was shown there was a premiere in LA. This was at the premiere and is the official map of the show at the end of season 2
Jesus these people are stupid. I have a gigantic fucking problem with the idea that they took over the entire fucking contiguous US. It is just asinine.
Do we even know the full methods used for the takeover? Was there split within the military? Was it an overthrow of the government with the military just withdrawing to avoid civilian bloodshed? Was the mass amounts of pollution within the colonies caused by nuclear blasts? It might be due less to their success than it was due to other groups' failures.
The question I'm most interested in is why did the non-gilead military forces retreat to the red zones, and why were they able to hold onto them. Not having ports along the gulf or along the pacific is a huge handicap for Gilead.
Need to keep in mind that it's based on an older book that AFAIK didn't really put much effort at all into the world-building other than abstract concepts, and the showrunners are creating stuff like this map after the fact.
The question I'm most interested in is why did the non-gilead military forces retreat to the red zones, and why were they able to hold onto them. Not having ports along the gulf or along the pacific is a huge handicap for Gilead.
Need to keep in mind that it's based on an older book that AFAIK didn't really put much effort at all into the world-building other than abstract concepts, and the showrunners are creating stuff like this map after the fact.
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