The Matrix Resurrections (2021)

Vanessa · Dec 26, 2021

Laugh. Point at laugh at the court jester everyone!

hashtag: dgaf

Malakriss · Dec 26, 2021

Verizon actually forwards those? Thought they were one of the ISPs that dgaf themselves and never did.

Chukzombi · Dec 27, 2021

Malakriss said:
Verizon actually forwards those? Thought they were one of the ISPs that dgaf themselves and never did.

there are several flagged torrent sites and if they see you hosting or downloading and get picked. they can fuck with you. as long as you just stream those movies, you are ok. streaming isnt illegal because you dont have posession of an illegal copy.

BoozeCube · Dec 27, 2021

The best thing that could be done for a Matrix movie would be to have absolutely nothing to do with Da OnE. The idea of the matrix and the world or early versions, or the first people who awaken or any number of things could be cool as fuck... but no let's build this world and then just shit on it.

Vanessa · Dec 27, 2021

Malakriss said:
Verizon actually forwards those? Thought they were one of the ISPs that dgaf themselves and never did.

Yeah, to be totally open and honest, this is actually my 3rd email like this from them in approximately 5 years of service. Can't remember what was the first one but it really shook me, I was all imagining the feds Breonna'ing my door when I was sleeping LoL, but now? yep... dgaf!

Ambiturner · Dec 27, 2021

rhinohelix said:
Thaaaat's a different thing, though. Would you go see *any* movie with Sly, or Molina, or Arnold, etc: That's what the studios mean by "bankable". Stars don't guarantee box office like they used to. In that past, you had "Star vehicles": You could put Arnold or Sly, or even Keanu in any-anything and people would go see it, and not just them, there were a fair number of folks. Over time, that number has dropped to Zero.

Stars don't mean box office any more, they don't provide big opening weekends, they don't bring in crowds, or really help with press tours. The media is so ubiquitous, so pervasive, while in past that it took a real star to get attention from the limited amount of media bandwidth, now they get drowned out by so much media that two kids with stupid haircuts humming about islands.

As you indicated, though, Keanu was integral to this project and his involvement was critical. His willingness to come back, doesn't hurt or taint him. No one will fail to cast him in anything because of this.

That's is completely wrong. Stallone, Arnold, etc. all had bombs even in their prime.

Shit is the same as its always been

Torrid · Dec 27, 2021

American media dominance is gone. Get used to reading subtitles when watching contemporary films or TV.

Watching youtubers rip modern films to shreds is far, far more entertaining than the actual movies. If you pay studios money for this crap, then fuck you.

rhinohelix · Dec 27, 2021

Ambiturner said:
That's is completely wrong. Stallone, Arnold, etc. all had bombs even in their prime.

Shit is the same as its always been

It's not my personal theory, feel free to google a bit and see for yourself. How many bombs did Arnold have in his prime? Stallone had one: Stop or my Mom will shoot, which he was famously pushed into making by Arnold when they in competition with each other. The rest of the movies you are probably thinking of aren't really "their prime". It's one of the reasons that we have gotten so much crap: Hollywood is populated with Leftist artistic perverts but run by merciless accountants and corporate marketing assholes who are trying to sell you something.

Torrid said:
American media dominance is gone. Get used to reading subtitles when watching contemporary films or TV.

Watching youtubers rip modern films to shreds is far, far more entertaining than the actual movies. If you pay studios money for this crap, then fuck you.

It's the one thing we make that everyone still wants, although everyone is getting better at making their own stuff. In 20 years, it may not be quite that way but barring war, we still make the best stuff. The wokeness is pushing other countries out of our orbit, though.

Chukzombi · Dec 27, 2021

rhinohelix said:
It's not my personal theory, feel free to google a bit and see for yourself. How many bombs did Arnold have in his prime? Stallone had one: Stop or my Mom will shoot, which he was famously pushed into making by Arnold when they in competition with each other. The rest of the movies you are probably thinking of aren't really "their prime". It's one of the reasons that we have gotten so much crap: Hollywood is populated with Leftist artistic perverts but run by merciless accountants and corporate marketing assholes who are trying to sell you something.

i dunno if he means bombs as in bad movies, or movies that didnt make money. arnold made a few bad movies in his "prime", but they still made money. i really didnt like Raw Deal. i loved me some 80s Ahnuld, but i wasnt feeling it in that one. The Running Man isnt really a good movie, its funny as fuck, though. if you read the book it was based off of, then pissed you the fuck off too. the 80s was really the only time in the last 30 years where a correct adaption of that story could have been made.

Arbitrary what are the odds of a true adaption of The Running Man ever being made in our lifetime? or Rage? or The Long Walk? or Roadwork?

Arbitrary · Dec 27, 2021

Chukzombi said:
i dunno if he means bombs as in bad movies, or movies that didnt make money. arnold made a few bad movies in his "prime", but they still made money. i really didnt like Raw Deal. i loved me some 80s Ahnuld, but i wasnt feeling it in that one. The Running Man isnt really a good movie, its funny as fuck, though. which if you read the book it was based off of. pissed you the fuck off. the 80s was really the only time in the last 30 years where a correct adaption of that story could have been made. Arbitrary what are the odds of a true adaption of The Running Man ever being made in our lifetime?

If you did put forth a script that was faithful to the original story in which a destitute man in a dying world decided to take the elite's offer to struggle for cash in a game show for their own amusement that concludes with him flying a jet in to their corporate headquarters no one would touch it.

Shit, there's even a scene in there were a kid has made his own little respirator based on salvaged parts and information from a library (access to books is strictly controlled) that works 1000x better than the overpriced junk for sale in the stores. That's a narrative (the official product is junk, there are better/cheaper options that the existence of is kept from you or your access to is artificially limited) that no one is going to want to put in studio picture.

If I really had to try and make a go of it I would make the lead character black and make it look like it was about race when it was 100% about class and Corporate America. Basically pay Jordan Peele to write it and direct it.

Ambiturner · Dec 27, 2021

rhinohelix said:
It's not my personal theory, feel free to google a bit and see for yourself. How many bombs did Arnold have in his prime? Stallone had one: Stop or my Mom will shoot, which he was famously pushed into making by Arnold when they in competition with each other. The rest of the movies you are probably thinking of aren't really "their prime". It's one of the reasons that we have gotten so much crap: Hollywood is populated with Leftist artistic perverts but run by merciless accountants and corporate marketing assholes who are trying to sell you something.

Over the Top, Rhinestone, Rocky V, Oscar, and Judge Dredd for Stallone.

Arnold had Lasy Action Hero, Red Heat, Red Sonja, and Collateral Damage.

None of those were released in the last 20 years.

Vanessa · Dec 27, 2021

Chukzombi said:
The Running Man isnt really a good movie, its funny as fuck, though. if you read the book it was based off of, then pissed you the fuck off too. the 80s was really the only time in the last 30 years where a correct adaption of that story could have been made.

This sounds intriguing Chuk... can you elaborate? Totally didn't know that movie was based off a book. And why "only" the 80s?

Masakari · Dec 27, 2021

Tauntworth said:
Watching this and then comparing to the original Matrix makes me wonder if the Wachowski's even really had a hand in the original, and were actually carried by extreme talent around them. The first one was so unique and inspired. There is no remnant or indication of that in this.

They didn't. Just like the Genius of the original Star Wars trilogy wasn't because of Lucas.

Finally watched the movie, it was okay. I wish they had more sustained action. Was funny seeing the Mirovirgin and I really liked NuSmith. NPH's character was interesting but lots of questions remain.

Chukzombi · Dec 27, 2021

Vanessa said:
This sounds intriguing Chuk... can you elaborate? Totally didn't know that movie was based off a book. And why "only" the 80s?

Arbitrary nailed it. but i can elaborate some more. it takes place in a world where jobs are few. the air is shit, there is nothing for the poor except FreeVee, corporate owned TV sets the poors get free. they only show their game shows where contestants literally sacrifice their lives for a little bit of credits for their families. the hero in the book is a man named Ben Richards, he isnt some roided out hunk of man wrongly imprisoned. he's just a regular sized dad trying to provide for his family but has no means to do it. his wife hooks on the corner for a few credits for medicine for their little girl. meanwhile Ben sits home seething because there is nothing he can do about it. so he decides that he's going to apply at the Games Network for one of their gameshows. he ends up getting on their primetime show called The Running Man. the Running Man game isnt some stupid colorful laser tag looking set with a bunch of over the top 80s caricature villains. the Running Man game in the book is they give you some credits and a video cassette camera for you to record your progress. you get 24 hours running time before they come after you. your objective is to go out into the world. anywhere you can think of and survive for 30 days. every hour that you arent killed is another bunch of credits for your family. if you make it the full 30 days, then you win the game and are awarded a bajilion credits that sets you for life. the thing is. nobody wins The Running Man because the deck is so stacked against you that the "hunters" always get you. those vlog tapes you make, you send them into the network through the postal system, meaning every time you drop one off into the mailbox. the hunters know exactly where you mailed it from. they also have a tip hotline where if you see one of the "hunted" you will get credits for the tip that got them killed. so everyone is against him and he cant go somewhere crazy because he has to drop a vlog tape(s?) off every single day.

long story short, the Games Network doesnt play fair and Ben Richards realizes that he's been royally fucked and thats when shit goes completely sideways. not giving the rest away, but its a kickass and fucked up story. it may sound like i am talking about how the movie went, but believe me its completely different. Stephen King wrote it under his pseudonym, Richard Bachman. its a really odd story and something that wont ever see a movie screen in this age of corporate supremacy and rich elites controlling things. it would scare the fuck out of them because it might give people the wrong ideas about who they should blame for their shitty lives instead of what they wantm which is to pit us against each other. white versus black lower class vs middle class. there was a chance in the 80s to do this right, because film studios were still doing offbeat Indy stuff like this. but no way in hell now. it was already too late by the 90s.

Arbitrary said:
If you did put forth a script that was faithful to the original story in which a destitute man in a dying world decided to take the elite's offer to struggle for cash in a game show for their own amusement that concludes with him flying a jet in to their corporate headquarters no one would touch it.

Shit, there's even a scene in there were a kid has made his own little respirator based on salvaged parts and information from a library (access to books is strictly controlled) that works 1000x better than the overpriced junk for sale in the stores. That's a narrative (the official product is junk, there are better/cheaper options that the existence of is kept from you or your access to is artificially limited) that no one is going to want to put in studio picture.

If I really had to try and make a go of it I would make the lead character black and make it look like it was about race when it was 100% about class and Corporate America. Basically pay Jordan Peele to write it and direct it.

yeah man, they built that ventilator system for the guy's sister who had asthma or emphysema or whatever . was so fucked up how that all went down. hell of a story though. if you notice, all those Bachman Book stories are dangerous as fuck to the status quo of today. after Columbine, King got fucking scared and had Rage permanently removed from any future printing of his books. course i still got mine.

Vanessa · Dec 27, 2021

Chukzombi said:
Arbitrary nailed it. but i can elaborate some more. it takes place in a world where jobs are few. the air is shit, there is nothing for the poor except FreeVee, corporate owned TV sets the poors get free. they only show their game shows where contestants literally sacrifice their lives for a little bit of credits for their families. the hero in the book is a man named Ben Richards, he isnt some roided out hunk of man wrongly imprisoned. he's just a regular sized dad trying to provide for his family but has no means to do it. his wife hooks on the corner for a few credits for medicine for their little girl. meanwhile Ben sits home seething because there is nothing he can do about it. so he decides that he's going to apply at the Games Network for one of their gameshows. he ends up getting on their primetime show called The Running Man. the Running Man game isnt some stupid colorful laser tag looking set with a bunch of over the top 80s caricature villains. the Running Man game in the book is they give you some credits and a video cassette camera for you to record your progress. you get 24 hours running time before they come after you. your objective is to go out into the world. anywhere you can think of and survive for 30 days. every hour that you arent killed is another bunch of credits for your family. if you make it the full 30 days, then you win the game and are awarded a bajilion credits that sets you for life. the thing is. nobody wins The Running Man because the deck is so stacked against you that the "hunters" always get you. those vlog tapes you make, you send them into the network through the postal system, meaning every time you drop one off into the mailbox. the hunters know exactly where you mailed it from. they also have a tip hotline where if you see one of the "hunted" you will get credits for the tip that got them killed. so everyone is against him and he cant go somewhere crazy because he has to drop a vlog tape(s?) off every single day.

long story short, the Games Network doesnt play fair and Ben Richards realizes that he's been royally fucked and thats when shit goes completely sideways. not giving the rest away, but its a kickass and fucked up story. it may sound like i am talking about how the movie went, but believe me its completely different. Stephen King wrote it under his pseudonym, Richard Bachman. its a really odd story and something that wont ever see a movie screen in this age of corporate supremacy and rich elites controlling things. it would scare the fuck out of them because it might give people the wrong ideas about who they should blame for their shitty lives instead of what they wantm which is to pit us against each other. white versus black lower class vs middle class. there was a chance in the 80s to do this right, because film studios were still doing offbeat Indy stuff like this. but no way in hell now. it was already too late by the 90s.

yeah man, they built that ventilator system for the guy's sister who had asthma or emphysema or whatever . was so fucked up how that all went down. hell of a story though. if you notice, all those Bachman Book stories are dangerous as fuck to the status quo of today. after Columbine, King got fucking scared and had Rage permanently removed from any future printing of his books. course i still got mine.

This is why you're one of my favorite peeps here Chuk. You think it maybe influenced the Hunger Games?

pysek · Dec 27, 2021

Chukzombi said:
Arbitrary nailed it. but i can elaborate some more. it takes place in a world where jobs are few. the air is shit, there is nothing for the poor except FreeVee, corporate owned TV sets the poors get free. they only show their game shows where contestants literally sacrifice their lives for a little bit of credits for their families. the hero in the book is a man named Ben Richards, he isnt some roided out hunk of man wrongly imprisoned. he's just a regular sized dad trying to provide for his family but has no means to do it. his wife hooks on the corner for a few credits for medicine for their little girl. meanwhile Ben sits home seething because there is nothing he can do about it. so he decides that he's going to apply at the Games Network for one of their gameshows. he ends up getting on their primetime show called The Running Man. the Running Man game isnt some stupid colorful laser tag looking set with a bunch of over the top 80s caricature villains. the Running Man game in the book is they give you some credits and a video cassette camera for you to record your progress. you get 24 hours running time before they come after you. your objective is to go out into the world. anywhere you can think of and survive for 30 days. every hour that you arent killed is another bunch of credits for your family. if you make it the full 30 days, then you win the game and are awarded a bajilion credits that sets you for life. the thing is. nobody wins The Running Man because the deck is so stacked against you that the "hunters" always get you. those vlog tapes you make, you send them into the network through the postal system, meaning every time you drop one off into the mailbox. the hunters know exactly where you mailed it from. they also have a tip hotline where if you see one of the "hunted" you will get credits for the tip that got them killed. so everyone is against him and he cant go somewhere crazy because he has to drop a vlog tape(s?) off every single day.

long story short, the Games Network doesnt play fair and Ben Richards realizes that he's been royally fucked and thats when shit goes completely sideways. not giving the rest away, but its a kickass and fucked up story. it may sound like i am talking about how the movie went, but believe me its completely different. Stephen King wrote it under his pseudonym, Richard Bachman. its a really odd story and something that wont ever see a movie screen in this age of corporate supremacy and rich elites controlling things. it would scare the fuck out of them because it might give people the wrong ideas about who they should blame for their shitty lives instead of what they wantm which is to pit us against each other. white versus black lower class vs middle class. there was a chance in the 80s to do this right, because film studios were still doing offbeat Indy stuff like this. but no way in hell now. it was already too late by the 90s.

yeah man, they built that ventilator system for the guy's sister who had asthma or emphysema or whatever . was so fucked up how that all went down. hell of a story though. if you notice, all those Bachman Book stories are dangerous as fuck to the status quo of today. after Columbine, King got fucking scared and had Rage permanently removed from any future printing of his books. course i still got mine.

The Long Walk was if the Running Man and Hunger Games had an incest baby.

The Long Walk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Arbitrary · Dec 27, 2021

I had forgotten some of the bits of the Running Man until reading Chuk's post. FreeVee plus locked up books has a lot of parallels even today. You can have corporate newspeak for free. We'll even give you the television. A library card? For someone of your class? I don't think so.

In the "boy this guy used to write some dangerous shit" category can't forget Road Work. A dude's home is being foreclosed upon for a highway and he chooses to make the news instead. Young cocaine fueled Stephen King was pretty based tbh.

Chukzombi · Dec 27, 2021

Vanessa said:
This is why you're one of my favorite peeps here Chuk. You think it maybe influenced the Hunger Games?

thanks, i still wont give you a pass on Alec Baldwin though!
seriously, it could have influenced a lot of dystopian type of stories. Hunger Games isnt gritty enough. i think they ripped HG off that japanese movie, Battle Royale.

Arbitrary · Dec 27, 2021

pysek said:
The Long Walk was if the Running Man and Hunger Games had an incest baby.

The Long Walk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Battle Royale and 1984 but written for 12 year old girls.

Vanessa · Dec 27, 2021

Chukzombi said:
thanks, i still wont give you a pass on Alec Baldwin though!

This, too, is why I love ya! People can disagree, debate, and move on. Weak SJW cucks put people on ignore and whine about having differences.

Never asked for a pass btw

Chukzombi said:
seriously, it could have influenced a lot of dystopian type of stories.

This makes me want to watch Running Man now, it's been literally a couple decades now I think. Good ol' Richard Dawson LoL

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