The Odyssey (2026)

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Adebisi

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I've completely given up on caring about race casting and just boil it all down to "all actors are tools" in their ability to be used by a great directors to make great movies, and also "tools" in the sense that they are retarded.

Give me a great story and great direction and I could care less about race casting. For me that battle is lost.
 
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Caeden

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I see. The demoralization has been effective. Quite effective.

I defended Idris Elba as Heimdall because he’s been pretty good in other roles. I was wrong.
 
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jayrebb

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It's being trickled out to manage reactions for whatever engagement metrics they are trying to go for.

If they released the casting first there would be an overwhelming backlash and the movie would be written off easier, with a stronger narrative of failure behind it.

It had gathered a narrative of failure anyway, but not as strong or intense as it would have been if the casting was fully announced when it was completed. Delaying controversial casting announcements mitigates the intensity. People who were favorable to the movie before the casting announcement will still give it a chance.
 
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Caeden

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Other than COVID bullshit with Tenet, this will be the first Nolan movie I haven’t seen in a theater, including Momento which I saw at a tiny art house theater years and years ago. Fuck this bullshit.
 

Aldarion

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I see. The demoralization has been effective. Quite effective.

I defended Idris Elba as Heimdall because he’s been pretty good in other roles. I was wrong.
Exactly. Imagine being so demoralized you defend your brainwashers actions on the internet. That is something truly special. Its almost enough to make you respect the skill of the demoralizers.
 
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M Power

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There is zero reason to give this shit movie money. The worse it does in theaters the faster it goes to streaming.
 
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I've completely given up on caring about race casting and just boil it all down to "all actors are tools" in their ability to be used by a great directors to make great movies, and also "tools" in the sense that they are retarded.

Give me a great story and great direction and I could care less about race casting. For me that battle is lost.
retarded casting choices (e.g., black Helen) usually predict retarded choices in other aspects of a film.
 
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Sheriff Cad

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Wat?

Is this a language barrier issue or an anal sex joke that I'm just not getting?
I think what he's saying is if they make shitty choices otherwise than casting also, then the movie will be shitty and you can avoid it for being shitty rather than for shitty casting. I don't agree with that, I think casting can ruin an otherwise good movie, but it's an opinion.
 
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Aldarion

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I think what he's saying is if they make shitty choices otherwise than casting also, then the movie will be shitty and you can avoid it for being shitty rather than for shitty casting. I don't agree with that, I think casting can ruin an otherwise good movie, but it's an opinion.
Fair, maybe thats what he means.

I can't agree with it either. Casting is useful because you get to see the casting before you spend money or time on the movie. Not sure how "it works out in the end" if you have to see the movie to get the full picture of why its shitty.
 

Caeden

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I think what he's saying is if they make shitty choices otherwise than casting also, then the movie will be shitty and you can avoid it for being shitty rather than for shitty casting. I don't agree with that, I think casting can ruin an otherwise good movie, but it's an opinion.
If it’s correct is it still an opinion?

My take is there was a lot of bad faith race swap casting done the past decade. Makes me less inclined to just “see what a particular actor can do in a role despite race.” I think that’s where we were about 1999. But then specifically race swapping white or white adjacent historical dramas and myths for fighting oppression…naw. It’s one sided. So I guess I’m saying a fact isn’t an opinion.
 

Sheriff Cad

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If it’s correct is it still an opinion?

My take is there was a lot of bad faith race swap casting done the past decade. Makes me less inclined to just “see what a particular actor can do in a role despite race.” I think that’s where we were about 1999. But then specifically race swapping white or white adjacent historical dramas and myths for fighting oppression…naw. It’s one sided. So I guess I’m saying a fact isn’t an opinion.
The opinion part is whether race-based casting ruins the movie for you. For him it doesn't, for me (and everyone else posting) it sure seems to.
 

Caeden

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The opinion part is whether race-based casting ruins the movie for you. For him it doesn't, for me (and everyone else posting) it sure seems to.
Oh I know. And I’m saying I’m not sure I consider your take an opinion.