The Outer Worlds

Vorph

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the only reason to have max level so early is to "force" you into the playstyle you wanted at the beginning

you want stealth? well all your points can only goto stealth

you want to explore the game and have choices, well you can only put pts into speech and hacking (to get the console stuff)
I definitely agree that the extreme stinginess with skill points was a huge mistake; I was saying that from practically day one. There's no way an Obsidian game in 2025 has replay value that even remotely justifies making character building so restrictive, and yet they give you so few points to work with that you have to ignore a large majority of the skills. So much so that taking Dumb has zero downside whatsoever, and NOT taking Easily Distracted (and even more importantly taking it right at level 4) is the biggest mistake you can make. Once you figure out how to game the system that way it's not quite so bad, but it's still terrible game design.

It's also quite apparent after a while that some skills are vastly more useful than others. Don't have lockpick? You're basically fucked. Speech is the only way to get the best outcome in parts of the main quest and quite a few side quests as well. Engineering is right up there too and also has two of the best perks in the game. On the other end, hacking and observation give trivial rewards and at most a bit of 'flavor', and since there's so few points to go around spending anything at all on them is a big mistake. Same goes for stuff like Explosives, Science, and Leadership. They'd be cool as backup skills if points were plentiful, but since you never have any to spare there's zero reason to even consider them. Most of those perks associated with those skills are shitty too, making them even more pointless to invest in.

In the end I ended up with 18 lockpick/engineering/speech, 17 guns & sneak, and 2 in medical (for pharm-thusiast). IMO that's as close as you can get to the ideal build in terms of being able to get past every important skill check out in the world and also being OP with your guns to the point where even the hardest difficulty is a pushover.
 
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Utnayan

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Kajiimagi

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Finally finished OW2 - 56 hours, basically run and gun the whole way. Was tired of same old same ol by the end and went straight to the end fight. Got it on sale for $42 so I guess I got my $$$ worth. Probably will not play it again.
 
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Izo

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Finally finished OW2 - 56 hours, basically run and gun the whole way. Was tired of same old same ol by the end and went straight to the end fight. Got it on sale for $42 so I guess I got my $$$ worth. Probably will not play it again.
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Replaying OW1, on the last DLC atm, Eridanos, before I finish the main quest. I forgot how much OW1 was a loot the box for stuff you don't need on normal. Food and drugs suck. Perk selections suck. And flaws are really bad except maybe 1, the baggage one. I don't use bullet time 99% of the time. It''s pew pew with ol' reliable. Winrar.
 
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Kajiimagi

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Replaying OW1, on the last DLC atm, Eridanos, before I finish the main quest. I forgot how much OW1 was a loot the box for stuff you don't need on normal. Food and drugs suck. Perk selections suck. And flaws are really bad except maybe 1, the baggage one. I don't use bullet time 99% of the time. It''s pew pew with ol' reliable. Winrar.
end of 2 I was using bullet time to headshot peeps with a scoped long rifle, then switching to a light machine gun when I got closer. Had other guns but never really used them. Ruined by 'old ' Obsidian, and miss the great characters and writing. Not much to write home about this time.
 
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spronk

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its the kind of game that should be perfect for me, an RPG in space where you fly around and explore shit but after 6-8 hours i was bored silly by the characters and dialogue and just stopped playing. OW1, I didn't even bother with OW2 and both are "free" on gamepass for me.

Same with Avowed, same with Starfield.

something about modern writers is just super annoying, they make everyone bland and inoffensive. I don't really understand how nobody in charge of western studios picks up on this, asian games still are full of anime tropes and shit that make everything whacky and nuts. Yakuza games, Korean games, etc all have games filled with personality.

and hot girls, thats the other thing every single Microsoft game is filled with goddamn ugly "people of walmart" characters.