The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS said:

I don’t think they’re space aliens but definitely think it could be military or just unexplained (unresearched) phenomena (like ball lightning)

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*Or drugs
*Or mentally ill people
*Or people looking for their 15 minutes of fame

Lots of factors. Interdimensional/interstellar species' are probably last on the list.

Kirun said:

*Or drugs
*Or mentally ill people
*Or people looking for their 15 minutes of fame

Lots of factors. Interdimensional/interstellar species' are probably last on the list.

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Confirmed unidentified flying objects and unconfirmed personal experiences are completely different. I'm referring to confirmed documentation of UFOs, not a hill billy's abduction encounter.

The Stealth Bomber was reported as a UFO before being declassified, for example.

The ticktack phenomenon that is confirmed by the US Navy is strong evidence for something currently unexplainable.

If you don't have verifiable evidence, I don't believe you. In anything unorthodox. You make an accusation or statement, you need to back it up with evidence. I've seen someone on this very thread show a picture of Starlink and ask if it was a UFO. No, it's star link (or possibly the ISS). Likewise, I've known people be confused at why a certain star looks X, and then I just explain that's Jupiter, etc. There's usually a rational answer behind most of these sightings.

However, the militaries of the world are definitely 20-30 years ahead of the rest of us technology wise. I've some friends in USA military intelligence, and I recall them telling me about specific tech they use back in 2009 that is now common usage in the civilian world. And he was a relatively low level position. He technically violated his security clearance by telling me but was never caught. I'm sure the supersecret classified tech is very advanced.

I picked up The Gods of Eden (1993) by Wiliam Bramey after hearing it referenced by John Lear on Art Bell a few times. It's funny, because in the book he will reference other authors I have read, such as Dr Bruce Greyson (head of psychiatry for University of Virginia and a skeptical researcher of NDEs).

The book is a bit dated as it's 30 years old, much like Fingerprints of the Gods (1995). (William Bramey is a much better writer than Graham Hancock. I love Hancock, but he's very dry when he writes, I think mostly due to how much pushback and criticism he's gotten from the archaeological community has calloused him for the worse). In the early 90s, the oldest homo sapien sapien fossil was I think 50k years old. Now, the oldest homo sapiens sapiens fossil discovered is 195K years old in Ethiopia. (The Morocco fossil that's 315K years old is a proto human, and a relative of ours, but not a homo sapien sapien, the naming structure is awful).

But I figured I'd share it. I'm about 100 pages in, and it's pretty interesting. Goes over the ancient history of UFO sightings, from Ancient Rome to Mesopotamia to Egypt, etc, and the author of course speculates that some of the ancient gods in mythology are ancient astronauts, etc. It's a fun read that is well written. I'll find individual lines that I really like every few pages. I'm agnostic when it comes to UFOs, though. I have no idea. I've had a UFO experience when I was a child that scared the shit out of me, my mother told me she has never seen me more scared. I've talked to her about it as an adult and been like, "yeah I was a kid and I just probably didn't understand what I saw." And she corrected me, "No. You genuinely saw something and I have never seen you ever so scared before or since." So. Who knows. Statistically, doesn't make much sense, and the skeptic in me doubts. I believe, help my unbelief.

I think the contents of this video are key to understanding the phenomenon and why everyone is just chasing their tail. Trying to understand this with a materialist worldview will never yield anything.