The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

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Few days late but going back to Void's question to Julian asking what made him start believing in the supernatural and responding back "but isnt that just humans being shitty humans". I would say that humans being shitty is exactly what points towards supernatural "evil" (for lack of a better word).

Humans have shown time and time again throughout our existence the ability to commit the most vile, inhumane, cruel acts to each other and to other animals. Just for the sake of being cruel and vicious. There is no evolutionary benefit to it. This type of behaviour doesnt exist anywhere else in the entire animal kingdom yet it resides in humanity. In my opinion this points towards an external force; demons, ET's, whatever the fuck you want to label it.

The rest of the observable universe is neutral. Shit lives, shit dies, shit doesnt give a fuck if you are happy or sad. But when humans get together all that goes out the window and we can be vessels of boundless love and joy or we can manifest the darkest pits of hell and cause unimaginable pain to one another. I think that comes from something outside ourselves and is more than just the chemicals swirling through our veins.
 
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Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said it best...

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Humans have shown time and time again throughout our existence the ability to commit the most vile, inhumane, cruel acts to each other and to other animals. Just for the sake of being cruel and vicious. There is no evolutionary benefit to it. This type of behaviour doesnt exist anywhere else in the entire animal kingdom yet it resides in humanity.
Not to be argumentative but you should watch some videos of the things chimps do sometime. Vile, cruel, and vicious behaviors exist throughout the animal kingdom.

A group of magicians looting a CVS or beating down an old couple look a lot like them. Hence the term "chimping out."
 

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Not to be argumentative but you should watch some videos of the things chimps do sometime. Vile, cruel, and vicious behaviors exist throughout the animal kingdom.

A group of magicians looting a CVS or beating down an old couple look a lot like them. Hence the term "chimping out."
Im not talking about some negroes chimping out at a CVS. I'm well awareof the casual cruelty of chimps and that wolves sometimes kill just for sport. Thats not what im talking about.

What I'm talking about is pure, unadulterated evil. Richard Kucklinski once described taking a guy, tying him up and leaving him in a pitch dark cave and eventually watching the rats come out and eat him alive. Starting with the soft bits like his eyes and face. Or someone that repeatedly rapes, beats, and tortures a child, knowing full well the pain and horror they are causing, yet doing it anyway. I'm not going to argue about it but that kind of shit is strictly human.
 

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Ufology 101 and great intro to documented similarities between historical documented encounters with fairy folk, etc and modern abduction and UFO sightings.

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My atheism kept the spiritual aspect of the phenomenon at bay for awhile but eventually it became so unavoidable that I’m no longer an atheist because of it. Who knows, I certainly could be wrong and this could be a strictly nuts and bolts phenomenon that works with materialism, but I don’t see it. Being part of some alien quantum AI simulation is always a possibility.

Passport to Magonia is a must read on the topic. There is a whole world that we no longer interact with that's likely still there. The whole section on faeries and faerie hills, really blew my mind. The priest who basically polled Ireland and Scotland on whether or not they've seen faeries or interacted with them personally reported that 90%+ of people believed in them, 85% had a personal interaction. They did not fuck with faerie hills, then post industrial revolution it's like the faeries just disappeared with the %s falling to nothing from 1800-1900.

Jacques makes a strong case that we on some level influence what these interactions look like and our collective beliefs play a major role in how they present themselves. The tv series American Gods played around with the concept, if people cease believing then you cease existing.
 
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Some of Jesse Michels vids are interviews where he just eats up everything he is told and doesn't really try to debunk what he's told too much. This one I feel like he tried to be a bit more balanced, consider the debunkers angles etc. Pretty well done and interesting vid on the Nazca mummies.

Some of the most interesting aspects were that he talked to the lead forensics guy of the US as well as another respected forensics guy from a US university, who both are pretty convinced at least some of these were real beings. (There were some fakes as well to try to make money off the real ones). If they were real beings, the Osmium / Cadmium implants are the most noteworthy aspects of these. Osmium is a rare earth metal that can be toxic, much rarer than gold, we didn't know it existed until 1803. Why would anybody go out of there way to use it in fake ET/being implants ?

 
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Passport to Magonia is a must read on the topic. There is a whole world that we no longer interact with that's likely still there. The whole section on faeries and faerie hills, really blew my mind. The priest who basically polled Ireland and Scotland on whether or not they've seen faeries or interacted with them personally reported that 90%+ of people believed in them, 85% had a personal interaction. They did not fuck with faerie hills, then post industrial revolution it's like the faeries just disappeared with the %s falling to nothing from 1800-1900.

Jacques makes a strong case that we on some level influence what these interactions look like and our collective beliefs play a major role in how they present themselves. The tv series American Gods played around with the concept, if people cease believing then you cease existing.
Also, if you have a secret alien base somewhere and you want the curious native apes to fuck off you might make something up to scare the fuck out of them. It’d be like dressing up like the dread pirate roberts and blowing a flamethrower out your ass to scare away some monkeys permanently.
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Jacques makes a strong case that we on some level influence what these interactions look like and our collective beliefs play a major role in how they present themselves. The tv series American Gods played around with the concept, if people cease believing then you cease existing.
Yeah some of that hurts my brain because of how counterintuitive it seems. This really how shit works?

I always laughed when people talked about conspiracies about how there were satanic symbolism and rituals in the Olympic Games ceremonies. What would the fucking point be?? If this is really how reality works it’s pretty obvious their point is getting this bullshit into the collective subconsciousness.
 
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That actually might be a big reason for the coverup. The more atheist’s and less believers in this phenomenon might make it less pronounced and disruptive. Or to keep us enslaved and under thumb. So many possibilities, so few answers.
 

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Im not talking about some negroes chimping out at a CVS. I'm well awareof the casual cruelty of chimps and that wolves sometimes kill just for sport. Thats not what im talking about.

What I'm talking about is pure, unadulterated evil. Richard Kucklinski once described taking a guy, tying him up and leaving him in a pitch dark cave and eventually watching the rats come out and eat him alive. Starting with the soft bits like his eyes and face. Or someone that repeatedly rapes, beats, and tortures a child, knowing full well the pain and horror they are causing, yet doing it anyway. I'm not going to argue about it but that kind of shit is strictly human.
I’d wager all but a handful of people who do this kind of thing got there by various forms of abuse and neglect from those who should have nurtured and protected them.
 

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Also check out anti-gravity research of people like Thomas Townsend Brown and Lou Witten and Freeman Dyson. Also notethe list of anti-gravity researchers that have died post 1960’s under mysterious circumstances.

So would you say the government has anti-gravity tech and is suppressing anyone else from having it by taking out those researchers?

Or that they're taking out said researchers because they don't want anybody having anti-gravity tech at all and want humanity to languish technologically?
 

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Played this back a bunch of times. He was going to say "it's not up to me" but caught himself.

That could of course just mean that it's classified and he's respecting that / doesn't want to admit that he's beholden to anyone else's rules so he stopped himself.

It sure sounds sus though.
 
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