The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

Drinsic: "Are games where I can jump off a cliff encouraging suicide?"

I've already addressed that exact point, Drinsic, but I will repeat it:

If a video game allows you to jump off a cliff, you are implicitly encouraged to do so, even if only to see if you can. In any game that DOES feature cliffs to jump off of, there are undoubtedly countless players who have done just that. Maybe as an accident, maybe for a laugh, maybe out of boredom, maybe out of frustration, maybe as a lark after already having beaten the game.

Agraza: "that's not what encourage means. you're not entitled to your own definitions."

Already covered. If you didn't like my explanation, counter it.




Chaos: "If real life has a cliff you can jump off of, are you implicitly encouraged to commit suicide?"

Real life is not a video game. Chaos, I'm shocked you need that explained to you.

Doc: "No of course not because Anita is using a very special and specific version of the word "encourage" that's never been used by any one ever before and is conveniently defined in the most narrow way possible to make what she said not completely retarded. You'd know this if you had donated to her kickstarter you shitlord."

She's using "encourage" in a way not incompatible with how we understand the word but, more importantly, in a way she makes explicitly clear, which means you're bitching for the sake of bitching.




Chanur: "Who knew Super Mario was telling us all to kill ourselves."

Maybe you think this means something, but it's lost on me. It certainly bears no connection to anything Sarkeesian has ever said. Not in tone, form or content.




Doc: "Wait a minute Tan. Didn't Anita say these things are encouraged because the negative consequences for doing so are nonexistent or negligible? Didn't she specifically mention immediate death or game over as a non negligible consequence? So are you still being "implicitly encouraged" to jump off a cliff if it kills you immediately?

Please update your apologetics. It's getting confusing."

Actually, Doc, that point was to illustrate that Sark did, in fact, acknowledge that the actions she was describing had consequences, despite her detractors trying to use that as proof that she didn't understand the game or something. And yes, in most cases the consequences were negligible, making it that much easier to integrate that behavior into your (otherwise serious) playthrough.
If you want to try to connect that line of thought to the "jumping off the cliff" example: You don't know what the consequences are until you try it. Even then, depending on why you're doing what you're doing in the game (in this case: jumping off a cliff), you can give a shit or not about the consequences. Heck, in most sandbox games a death is almost meaningless and "game over" doesn't even exist.

I will absolutely give you credit for making an actual point, though, Doc. I'm not even being sarcastic. Good on you. I knew you had it in you.

Khalid: "We had these same "discussions" 3 years ago. The definition of encourage directly contradicts what Moonbat is saying, yet he hasn't wavered once from his absurd stand. He is in too deep, it is like expecting Lumie to back off from end of the world predictions."

Here's where I say "I addressed this already" and you say "No you didn't" even though it's right there in white-on-black text in words that have yet to be acknowledged by anyone, let alone actually refuted with a reasonable counter-point. Your work is cut out for you, dude. Stop being a pussy. Even Doc used his head to make a valid counter-argument.

Lith: "Seriously, what news or announcement is this conversation covering up? Why the are people bent out of shape about people geeking out a little over fight choreography in a thread about a movie that is primarily about people fighting with laser swords? I'm seriously baffled by this phenomenon. There is no excuse to not just skip past this stuff; there is no current content on this movie. You are literally bitching just to bitch; as if I'm reaching through the computer and making you read it and you resent it, lol. As you don't even have the excuse that you're trying to read something else here. As I said, when news gets posted, I'll stop--this is just a fun conversation, why the hell does that draw so much ire?"

Interesting.