The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

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Tanoomba

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Mist: "Thinking this 'SJW menace' is a real force in the real world is a symptom of living on the internet. While I agree these people are absurdly stupid+crazy and find their antics and motivations to be hilariously hypocritical, their circles of influence are incredibly tiny. They actively marginalize themselves on a daily basis, and they do this intentionally as their only real power comes in pretending to be the oppressed."

Fucking A.
 

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Dumar: "How about the feels of accusing someone of rape, ruining a guy's life, and getting media attention and fame in the process, at no detriment whatsoever once the claims are proven false? How about those feels?"

When did this happen?



GavinMad: "You idiots going on about the 'epidemic' of false rape accusations are basically no different from feminists bitching about manspreading and Witcher 3 when 8 year old girls are being married and raped to death in the muslim world."

Agreed.
 

Tanoomba

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Also, I guess I missed something, but how are SJWs responsible for false rape accusations?
 

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Big Phoenix: "Actually yeah it is. If the punishment for falsely accusing someone of a crime was the punishment for said crime and actually enforced gaurenfuckingtee you that shit would drop to near zero over night."

Except for the majority of cases where there isn't enough evidence to prove someone guilty and there isn't enough evidence to prove the accuser is lying. Turns out it's complicated.
 

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a_skeleton_03: "If only the people in charge of this joke took things even remotely serious. If only we weren't lead to believe that no matter what we said it was going to be ignored for a weekend at the very least so that Mario can print it all out and jerk off with it covered in peanut butter so when he tossed it down the dog would eat it and get rid of the evidence."

Jesus Christ, dude.

I mean, you're totally right, but holy shit.
 

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Lith: "But even when you see clear benefits of training women how to spot and avoid dangerous situations, what do you get? The classic line of "victim blaming"--as if we shouldn't expect women to understand and realize there are predators out there, because admitting that means we don't have a civil society or that we are indifferent to the women who will be victimized (It is such fucking confounding logic..ugh)."

Has anybody on this board ever suggested it was a bad idea for women to learn how to avoid and prevent dangerous situations from occurring?
 

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Here's all I remember from Home Ec:

- I had to make an article of clothing. I chose to make a pair of shorts. I chose a green fabric. I don't think I ever finished them.

- For a cooking project I was partnered with a girl I had a huge crush on. She made pancakes or something at some point. They were totally undercooked and runny, but I did my damned best to eat as much as I could... Good times.
 

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Here's all I remember from Home Ec:

- I had to make an article of clothing. I chose to make a pair of shorts. I chose a green fabric. I don't think I ever finished them.

- For a cooking project I was partnered with a girl I had a huge crush on. She made pancakes or something at some point. They were totally undercooked and runny, but I did my damned best to eat as much as I could... Good times.
In my Home economics class, one of my classmates broke the news to me that Mormon girls were massive sluts. Offended, I started a fight in defense of the honor of the girls that were slandered.

I recognize now he was telling me an uncomfortable truth. None of the girls in my ward from that age group are married now or in the LDS church. One of them had a kid in High School.

The truth is sometimes hard to accept.
 

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Yikes were you raised Mormon, Himeo? No wonder MGTOW/RP is attractive to you.

It's all becoming so clear.
 

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Congrats. And sorry your folks are so dumb. Mine are Catholic, so are only just a little less retarded.
 

Tanoomba

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Dumar: "No one would listen to Anita unless someone threatened her first, so she had to produce those threats."

Are you implying everything that happened is part of some grand master plan? Seems to me she was happy as a pig in shit just making videos about a topic that interested her. It wasn't until she was hit with a completely irrational and disproportionately hateful backlash that she decided to use that to her advantage. She didn't "produce" anything (you are the only person on this board who thinks she made death threats to herself), she just took lemons and made lemonade. Hell, she would have been a moron not to.



Dumar: "It's the same with mattress girl -- no one would've cared about her art project unless she said she was raped."

Her art project was ABOUT her being raped. Also, you've already convinced yourself she was lying about the rape even though there is no proof she was. Obviously, you're going to interpret the story however best to suit your preconceived narrative. That's not on her, that's on you.
 

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DMK: "A chick literally just got praised world wide for reporting rape then had absolutely zero repercussions from the law when it was found she was lying."

It was never found she was lying about the rape.
 

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Dumar: "To me false rape claims should be a form of fraud, just like false insurance claims."

Indeed they should. Unfortunately, just like ACTUAL rape claims, false rape claims are notoriously difficult to prove.
 

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Dumar: "But this idea that they're afraid to come forward for fear of something, fear of being ostracized or ridiculed doesn't hold water. They're celebrated when they come forward, the crime actually being done to them or not."

Holy shit Dumar, really? Really?

Here's an article written by a girl who was raped, had evidence backing up her story, had her alleged rapist confess and get convicted, and it was STILL a dehumanizing, humiliating and degrading process.
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1504-8-ways-legal-system-screws-rape-victims-like-me.html
Grow the fuck up.


Lith: "Which is why we know rape prevention classes will have a massive effect on actual rape, but we refuse to teach them to anyone but men (lol) on campuses because we can't expect any proactive prevention from women, else we might impinge on this victim status."

I know you love this point, Lith, but again, nobody is arguing against this. Nobody. Every single poster here agrees that rape prevention knowledge is a good thing. Stop acting like this is your "gotcha" when it doesn't contradict anything anyone here has ever said.
 

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I know you love this point, Lith, but again, nobody is arguing against this. Nobody. Every single poster here agrees that rape prevention knowledge is a good thing. Stop acting like this is your "gotcha" when it doesn't contradict anything anyone here has ever said.
Jesus you moron, I'm talking about Campuses. Every fucking article talking about this discusses victim blaming.

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-campus-sexual-assault-prevention-program-20150609-story.html

By focusing on a potential victim's power to thwart her attackers, some experts warned that such a program might contribute to blaming victims. In an editorial accompanying the study, Kathleen C. Basile, an epidemiologist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, wrote that the study's "primary weakness is that it places the onus for prevention on potential victims, possibly obscuring the responsibility of perpetrators and others."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/12/stop-rapists-not-change-who-gets-raped

This impressive reduction is reason to celebrate. But there is no easy answer to ending rape, and there's a real danger in believing the solution to sexual assault is on the shoulders of women who might be attacked.As Kathleen Basile from the Centers for Disease Control said in an editorial accompanying the study in the New England Journal of Medicine, as a sole solution this program "places the onus for prevention on potential victims, possibly obscuring the responsibility of perpetrators and others". And in a world where rape victims are routinely blamed for the violence perpetrated against them, sending the message that stopping rape is women's work is a slippery slope.


I'm not going to dig through every publication because you're obtuse. Your inability to wrap your head around a simple concept isn't part of your trolling, so please improve your game.
 

Tanoomba

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Dude, I've understood what you're saying since the first of 37 times you've said it. You're making a point every single person on this board agrees with. Nobody here has claimed rape prevention knowledge is "victim blaming". You're preaching to the choir, only you're presenting this unanimously agreed-upon point as some kind of counter-argument, even though it counters nothing that has ever been said on this board.

Maybe your point is "Actually, there IS something we can do to reduce rape, but some idiots with their knee-jerk 'victim blaming!' response are preventing this solution." Great. Nobody here has defended those people or agreed with them ever, and that certainly doesn't change the fact that there are many reasons for actual rape victims NOT to report their rapes, while there is incentive for a certain type of people to make false rape accusations. You've made a valid tangent point that was not up for debate that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. It's not a big deal, dude.
 

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Dude, I've understood what you're saying since the first of 37 times you've said it. You're making a point every single person on this board agrees with. Nobody here has claimed rape prevention knowledge is "victim blaming". You're preaching to the choir, only you're presenting this unanimously agreed-upon point as some kind of counter-argument, even though it counters nothing that has ever been said on this board.

Maybe your point is "Actually, there IS something we can do to reduce rape, but some idiots with their knee-jerk 'victim blaming!' response are preventing this solution." Great. Nobody here has defended those people or agreed with them ever, and that certainly doesn't change the fact that there are many reasons for actual rape victims NOT to report their rapes, while there is incentive for a certain type of people to make false rape accusations. You've made a valid tangent point that was not up for debate that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. It's not a big deal, dude.
That is a lot of words for a simple statement "Sorry, once again, I was wrong". Because if you thought about it for five minutes, when I say "we", I mean society--specifically the people in charge of Campus safety. And that means NO ONE on this board. In addition, I specifically mention "Feminists" in who I'm putting the blame on; which again, is almost no one on this board. Here, let me quote you each piece of context which was clearly directing my critique at articles, society and feminist pundits within those articles.

1.) *********As I linked, that was literally the fucking complaint about the studies findings--not that they worked, but that they were victim blaming.******** (Referencing the article linked about the study, much like I linked here. Note: This was the next line after your quote.)

2.) ********and feminists continually play into that stereotype********* (Again, modern feminism--I don't mention feminists like YOU, or feminists "like Mist", because she isn't one--clearly I'm critiquing an outside source.

3.) **************The fact is though, that we label women as victims BEFORE they are actually victims. For me that shows society still has a fundamental view of women as victims*********** (Once more, notice the emphasis on society; I shouldn't need to teach you how "we" is used here--you teach English for fuck sake.)


You are the only retard that has tried to make the argument as if it's directed at people on this board, rather than a critique of our society's collective outlook. So any post following this where you continue to defend this point? I'll just take as trolling. The only reason I wasted my time with this is because you teach children this language, and I legitimately believe this time you weren't trolling, it was just a severe lack of reading comprehension.
 
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