fanaskin
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you really didn't but whatever, what's the point of feminist advocates then?, you're literally saying that there's no goals in feminism which is dumb
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you say "conspiracy" like the educational system isn't a giant group of organizations, was there a "conspiracy" to get gay marriage passed? I mean the reason such rapid change happened in society is because of the educational system, which systemically changed what was taught in schools, the older people died off and judges can read opinion polls just like politicians, it's not like logic changed in the last 40 years, it was public opinion, the extent to which you want to call that a "conspiracy" up to you, clearly you're trying to use it like a slander word though.
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OK, so what you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) is that colleges are NOT trying to brainwash the masses for nefarious or sinister purposes... Right? They are simply reflecting current cultural shifts, shifts which inevitably and consistently occur as society evolves (like your gay marriage example). Apparently, your view is that these current cultural trends are "wrong" or "harmful" somehow ("Back in my day, things didn't use to be this way at all!" *shakes fist*). So, like I said, the paranoid ramblings of a hand-wringing busybody.
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WOW. So much wrong with that post, don't know where to start...
First of all, you just took a step backwards and back into conspiracy territory. So the elites are changing the masses (through "feminization", natch)... FOR WHAT??? What do the "elites" have to gain by "feminizing" the masses? If you can't answer this question (and I'm getting the strong, strong impression that you really can't), then what the fuck are you even talking about?
For that matter, why did the "elites" decided that gay marriage should be OK now, that the public should be changed to accommodate this new cultural shift? Who benefited from "changing" the population's views on gay rights?
First of all, you just took a step backwards and back into conspiracy territory. So the elites are changing the masses (through "feminization", natch)... FOR WHAT??? What do the "elites" have to gain by "feminizing" the masses? If you can't answer this question (and I'm getting the strong, strong impression that you really can't), then what the fuck are you even talking about?
For that matter, why did the "elites" decided that gay marriage should be OK now, that the public should be changed to accommodate this new cultural shift? Who benefited from "changing" the population's views on gay rights?
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you're conception of "make" and mine are different for this, just because it's voluntary doesn't mean you aren't changed or molded by a process you undertake voluntarily. it says it right there, "encourage critical media literacy" clearly means propagandize (in the neutral meaning of the word) critical theory.
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I dunno you're asking what feminist professors think they'll gain from teaching this to society, why are you asking me?
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So, to clarify, when you were talking about "the elites" earlier, you were talking about university professors who want to use their influence on the population AND the "high ups" in order to shape government policy.
So far, professors have succeeded in convincing the population to accept gay marriage. Currently, they are trying to get the population to buy into feminist ideology.
Now, if I understand correctly, you are implying they are doing this NOT for personal gain or benefit, but because they believe this will help society evolve in a way that is more just and fair. I get the impression that you disagree with the motivations of this cabal of professors, and that's why you see them as a negative influence pulling society in the wrong direction.
Did I miss anything?
So far, professors have succeeded in convincing the population to accept gay marriage. Currently, they are trying to get the population to buy into feminist ideology.
Now, if I understand correctly, you are implying they are doing this NOT for personal gain or benefit, but because they believe this will help society evolve in a way that is more just and fair. I get the impression that you disagree with the motivations of this cabal of professors, and that's why you see them as a negative influence pulling society in the wrong direction.
Did I miss anything?
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elites are just rich and influential people they aren't categorically limited.
the schooling system, not professors although i'm sure they had a hand in what is taught in school systems, like who does the board of education talk to or who makes curriculum currently you could look at common core as an example, who provides the input there? professors.
why do you keep talking about cabals, you act like the school system and the university system or the community college system has no effect on people and isn't organized.
the schooling system, not professors although i'm sure they had a hand in what is taught in school systems, like who does the board of education talk to or who makes curriculum currently you could look at common core as an example, who provides the input there? professors.
why do you keep talking about cabals, you act like the school system and the university system or the community college system has no effect on people and isn't organized.
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I mean if you read the feminist ideology it explains itself, why do I have to explain their ideology for you? you could say because capitalism, because colonialism, because racism, because nuclear bombs, because masculinity, because patriarchy, because utopia, because dystopia, because if you read their own stuff they have a giant laundry list of shit, and you want me to pick one reason? which if you can get all abstract about can go in many different directions? or you can look at it from a meta pov, because money, because power, because narcissism, because men and woman think differently, because white guilt.
I mean it's a university course but it's not exactly physics is it, we teach physics because it helps you understand physics which allows you to understand how to do things in the real world, same with math, or biology or chemistry ect, you can't really say that about feminism not in small part because of how vague it is. when it comes down to it they teach it because they want more people to be feminists, it's not like you get a gender studies degree so you can apply it to build a building, you get one so you can apply it to apply it's critique and change peoples minds, so they change their actions.
I mean it's a university course but it's not exactly physics is it, we teach physics because it helps you understand physics which allows you to understand how to do things in the real world, same with math, or biology or chemistry ect, you can't really say that about feminism not in small part because of how vague it is. when it comes down to it they teach it because they want more people to be feminists, it's not like you get a gender studies degree so you can apply it to build a building, you get one so you can apply it to apply it's critique and change peoples minds, so they change their actions.
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