The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

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Tanoomba

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Nirgon: "ya know I really didn't personally attack anyone

you try to reach some people and just.. welp.."

So... "idiot" is a term of endearment?
 

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Fana: "he's just an extreme example of a scam artist, which is not isolated to woman or video games, but if you are going to accuse someone of believe someone is a scam artist you can't help but talk about them as people."

Sure, if you "believe" someone is a scam artist then yeah, you're going to say mean things about them as a person. Bernie Madoff is a convicted criminal. Being an actual scam artist, not a suspected or accused scam artist, is literally all we know about the guy. It would be hard to talk about him without referencing that. Sarkeesian is a pop critic who said some things you didn't like. The "scam artist" accusations are a joke. They were added onto the pile of ridiculous attacks leveled against her ("she stole footage", "she harassed herself", "HITMAN!!!!!", etc) by people desperate for anything, ANYTHING they could hold against her.
did she not use let's play footage in her video's now?

http://victorsopinion.blogspot.com/2013/07/anitas-sources.html

did she not list video capture as part of her kickstarter so she could tape herself playing which I believe was promised? which as far as I know the video series still remains unfulfilled and uses practically the same production quality as her pre kickstarter video's?

has she not redefined what the goals of the kickstarter are I believe more than once now?
 

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Fana: "did she not use let's play footage in her video's now?"

She sure did. She was allowed to. So what? She also used her own footage. And? How does any of that affect the points she's attempting to make? Like I said, the anti-Sarks will latch onto ANYTHING if it will help them paint a picture of her as a villain, regardless of whether there is any merit or even relevance to the accusation.
 

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a_skeleton_03: "Ever heard of the village idiot? Yeah it can totally be endearing."

He was talking about Anita, not you.
 

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Fana: "did she not use let's play footage in her video's now?"

She sure did. She was allowed to. So what? She also used her own footage. And? How does any of that affect the points she's attempting to make? Like I said, the anti-Sarks will latch onto ANYTHING if it will help them paint a picture of her as a villain, regardless of whether there is any merit or even relevance to the accusation.
you don't see a basic contradiction between her using let's play footage and her claiming hse personally played all the games? + there's an interview of her I think it was the network one where she shows a computer with video cpature she says she bought with the kickstarter funds so she could record herself playing videogames.

if she has all this footage of herself playing video games why would she use so much let's play footage?
 

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I want to have a ReRolled get together where nobody can use their forum handles. It would be at a bar. I bet we'd all have a good time. Then, once everyone is drunk, we all reveal who we are on the board.
 

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Fana: "you don't see a basic contradiction between her using let's play footage and her claiming hse personally played all the games?"

There is no contradiction. Using Let's Play footage doesn't mean she didn't play the games.

Fana: "+ there's an interview of her I think it was the network one where she shows a computer with video cpature she says she bought with the kickstarter funds so she could record herself playing videogames."

And she did record herself playing games. Just not all of them.

Fana: "if she has all this footage of herself playing video games why would she use so much let's play footage?"

Maybe it was easier to scour YouTube for specific scenes from games rather than playing through multiple hours to get to that scene. Maybe she already played through that game but didn't have footage of it. Maybe she played the game but not that scene. Maybe she thought the scene contained enough context that whether or not she played the game up to that point was irrelevant.

You're arbitrarily deciding that for her points to be valid, she needs to have captured ALL of the footage of herself playing all the games (and there are tons referenced in her videos)... because reasons. If she's wrong about something, explain how she's wrong. Trying to nitpick how extensively she uses her video capture equipment or how many YouTube videos she used serves zero purpose. It does nothing to convince people she's wrong, in any case. It DOES convince people you're desperate to portray her as a villain and you'll latch onto any justification to do so, though.
 

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Soy: "I want to have a ReRolled get together where nobody can use their forum handles. It would be at a bar. I bet we'd all have a good time. Then, once everyone is drunk, we all reveal who we are on the board."

That would be AWESOME.
 

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You must be very easily scammed. At least if it's a women doing it.
 

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Fana: "you don't see a basic contradiction between her using let's play footage and her claiming hse personally played all the games?"

There is no contradiction. Using Let's Play footage doesn't mean she didn't play the games.

Fana: "+ there's an interview of her I think it was the network one where she shows a computer with video cpature she says she bought with the kickstarter funds so she could record herself playing videogames."

And she did record herself playing games. Just not all of them.

Fana: "if she has all this footage of herself playing video games why would she use so much let's play footage?"

Maybe it was easier to scour YouTube for specific scenes from games rather than playing through multiple hours to get to that scene. Maybe she already played through that game but didn't have footage of it. Maybe she played the game but not that scene. Maybe she thought the scene contained enough context that whether or not she played the game up to that point was irrelevant.

You're arbitrarily deciding that for her points to be valid, she needs to have captured ALL of the footage of herself playing all the games (and there are tons referenced in her videos)... because reasons. If she's wrong about something, explain how she's wrong. Trying to nitpick how extensively she uses her video capture equipment or how many YouTube videos she used serves zero purpose. It does nothing to convince people she's wrong, in any case. It DOES convince people you're desperate to portray her as a villain and you'll latch onto any justification to do so, though.
yeah ok, 5 different maybes that don't seem likely especially within the context of their use in the videos + "these situational maybes does convince people you're desperate" = white knight level 99 maybe you can reach 100 if you try harder.
 

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Doc: "You must be very easily scammed. At least if it's a women doing it."

Haven't been scammed yet, by "a women" (sic) or otherwise.




Fana: "yeah ok, 5 different maybes that don't seem likely especially within the context of their use in the videos + "these situational maybes does convince people you're desperate" = white knight level 99 maybe you can reach 100 if you try harder."

Why are any of those "maybes" any less likely than your assumption that she's... wait, what's your explanation again? It's not that she "stole footage" (how the topic came up), because we've established that she was within her rights to do so, so what's your "maybe"? What are you accusing her of?

Oh, and congratulations on the hundredth time I've been called a "white knight"! It never ceases to amaze me how eager and willing people are to show others "I can't argue with you so I'm going to give you a dismissive, meaningless label".
 

Tanoomba

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Fana: "getting closer to 100 just a little more effort though"

No, seriously, you shit on my perfectly reasonable and feasible explanations for her use of Let's Play footage. What's your alternative explanation?

I know it's been extremely difficult to get an actual stance out of you in the past, so I'm giving you an opportunity to practice. Anita Sarkeesian used Let's Play footage in her videos. So what?
 

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the one i've been making the whole time, it's evidence she's a con artist. Evidence she wasn't what is classically considered a gamer when she started but she constantly try'd and tries to portray herself as a person who does. a synonym of con artist is confidence trickster.
 

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Fana: "the one i've been making the whole time, it's evidence she's a con artist. Evidence she wasn't what is classically considered a gamer when she started but she constantly try'd and tries to portray herself as a person who does. a synonym of con artist is confidence trickster."

Well, you've certainly illustrated confirmation bias exceptionally well.

How the heck does the fact that she used Let's Play footage prove she is a con artist? You're missing some vital information to get from point A to point B there. "What? Anita uses whitening tooth paste? Aha! Proof she's a Nazi sympathizer!"

Let's clarify some things here:
- Using Let's play footage does not mean she's not a gamer.
- If she plays video games, then she's a gamer. Therefore, you're using a restrictive definition of "gamer" that arbitrarily excludes people you don't want to consider "gamers", based on information you don't have anyway! You don't even KNOW what games she has played/continues to play.
- Even if she doesn't fit YOUR definition of "gamer", doesn't she only have to fit HER definition of gamer since she was the one who referred to herself as one? (She's played video games since her childhood so she wasn't lying.)
- Even if she wasn't a gamer at all, how does that impact the points she makes in her videos? Do you think calling yourself a gamer when some other people who also call themselves gamers wouldn't consider you a gamer is a CON? What the actual fuck?
- I thought gamers were supposed to be inclusive and welcoming to people who play whatever games they like for whatever reasons they like. Why are you deciding to reject someone who chooses to refer to herself as a gamer? Because she used Let's Play footage? (Again, broken logic there.)
- Please, by all means, bring up the "busted" video again. Please. That's only been debunked once on Rerolled, and I'm sure several posters are not yet aware why that's garbage.

I want you to know that this "throw as much shit at the wall and hope some of it sticks" approach to criticizing Sarkeesian would not fly in any discussion on any other topic. Basically, the only reason it's considered acceptable is because the majority of you have already concluded that she's the bad guy. Since she's the bad guy, you don't have to use logic or reason when trying to find reasons to attack her. It's circular logic that's obvious to anyone who isn't just along for the witch hunt.
 
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