The Twilight Zone

the outer limits or whatever one it was that had nudity was the best because they didn't restrict their stories etc.

Cybsled said:

The original versions didn’t have much of a moral either. In both instances, they save everyone, but they are punished as crazy...although in those instances, there was some physical evidence (destroyed engine).

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However, THIS version if he had done nothing then everything would have been fine. I prefer Treehouse of Horror's "Terror at 5-1/2 feet" over this one for sure.

Xadion said:

the outer limits or whatever one it was that had nudity was the best because they didn't restrict their stories etc.

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Alyssa Milano is naked in one of those and she looked MIGHTY fine.

Utnayan said:

Twilight zone original had twists all over the place in some episodes. From little robots terrorizing what you thought was a human being turning out the little robots were us, to third one from the sun and people escaping the planet were actually fleeing to earth instead. From three astronauts thinking they crashed on an asteroid and it ended up being earth. To bank robbers who froze themselves in time for a hundred years with their gold, only to all die a hundred years later and knowing at the end gold wasn’t worth anything anymore so they did it for nothing.

Not sure what show you were watching. Now granted not all of them were like that, but the old show had plenty of holy shit twist moments.

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I think the robots was an Outer Limits, not a zone. I feel like this argument has happened before:

Honestly the 2nd episode wasn't the worst...but I got completely drawn out of the storyline when the journalist "discovered" the PIN to get into the *pilot cabin* was the same as the flight number. Come on now. How can you have the first 5 minutes of the episode be TSA++ and then make the PIN entry to the cockpit cabin be a 4 digit code that just so happens to be your flight number? That's just lazy writing.

Attog said:

I think the robots was an Outer Limits, not a zone. I feel like this argument has happened before:

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The film's versions of It's a Good Life and Kick the Can are both pretty good. There were a period of time where quite a few anthology horror films got made even though the structure is often a bit hokey. Tales from the Crypt ended up taking the premise of Creepshow and Twilight Zone the Movie (bring in talented people to each do one story) and really run with it.

Outer limits from 90s were good, but every ending usually fell into a) we’re all fucked b) we’re still fucked but slightly less fucked. Sometimes it involved literal fucking lol

I remember the doomsday weapon vault one where 7 countries had vaults where the person had to press a button every day or every nuke/chem/bio weapon would destroy the world and render it unusable for aliens. All the bunkers fall to the aliens or tech issues, leaving just the American one. American is out of water/food and his commander appears on the TV and tells him they beat the aliens and need him to keep pressing the button until they can deactivate the doomsday weapon. Then the TV shuts off and we see the commander has some alien creature controlling him like a puppet and then rips itself out of his body and in the commander's death throes, he pulls down a curtain which reveals Washington, DC has been almost completely flattened by the aliens, indicating they won.

Cybsled said:

Outer limits from 90s were good, but every ending usually fell into a) we’re all fucked b) we’re still fucked but slightly less fucked. Sometimes it involved literal fucking lol

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Another great episode was "The Light Brigade" (or something, too lazy to look it up). They actually had several episodes that take place in that universe. IIRC, Earth is at war with an alien species and the war is going badly. Very depressing from what I remember. But great! Highly recommend.

Ya, they had some sequel episodes. The Light Brigade was one. That old time travel dude was another. The time travel dude ones were some of the few that had happy/good guys win endings. Like the Nazi war criminal getting teleported back to Auchwitz at the end, being put in a prisoner outfit, and he his executed by his younger self. Or the girl fated to die gets teleported to the future moments before she dies and gets to become a time cop.

I just remembered another episode that sticks out called The Balance. It is in the future and these aliens that look like raptors have a teleportation technology...sorta. Basically it does a scan of you and makes a perfect copy of you on the other end (ie, another planet far away). Once the other copy is confirmed viable, the original is disintigrated. Ergo the balance. Episode involves a woman that is going to visit the raptor planet, but they can't get confirmation that the copy was viable, so they abort the kill the original part of it. However, later they confirm the copy is viable and the raptor aliens tell the human tech that he needs to maintain the balance (ie, there can't be 2 of the person). You can guess what direction the episode takes.

i guess i completely interpreted the 2nd episode entirely differently. i thought Joe was a figment of the journalists imagination and he was doing all the stuff that he saw Joe doing. no one else seemed to react to Joe. So that meant that the journalist was the one that went into the cockpit and the entire crew saw him crash the plane intentionally. they mentioned that everyone on the plane was accounted for except for the journalist but the people on the plane clearly saw "Joe" bludgeoning the pilots wouldn't they have killed him as well? They also mention in the beginning the journalist had a psychiatric break before, i took this as just him completely breaking down, its likely he imagined the podcast, and Joe it doesn't explain how he knew the code to get into the front cabin but it explains the rest of the episode.

The only reasoning I can come up with that they all accessed this was the duration. First episode was like 55 minutes and second was 35? Uneven run times making it difficult to slot into an hour? They got Jordan Peele the hottest guy in show biz and they don’t prime time this... Gotta be duration issues with the presented narratives.

Which is sloppy. Just because it's online and not subject to a specific run time doesn't mean the episode is better. Without a time framework, the writers and production can be lazy and not tighten up the story. Instead we get episode 1 which is way too long and beats us over the head with the story more than it needs to. If a good story needs to be longer, they can do a 2-parter etc.

Utnayan said:

Yeah this same thing happened with Rod Serling in Season 4 back in the day when CBS forced him to move to a 1 hour time slot to cover some other shit show that bombed and they wanted to retain ratings. It damned near destroyed the show because the entire premise was based around 30 minute time slot short stories. CBS has it's head up their ass.

Which we all knew anyway.

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they also forced him to do one hour LIVE broadcasts of episodes they already did. thats why there are two "room for one more" TZ episodes.