Thunderbolts* (2025)
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Chanur
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Agreed. I don't even care about any of it until something actually good comes out. Then I will definitely see it.
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Log Wizard
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Yeah. OTOH, fatigue is a thing, however small in comparison to shit writing. Nothing ever really happens because there are no stakes, no real sacrifices or loses. Sure, 3 characters got offed in Endgame, but that's just one movie out of dozens. Movies, then, are reduced to CGI fests of pointless loud bangy battles with preordained outcomes. Heroes don't seem all that heroic when the only real thing that transpires is a bunch of flattened infrastructure and heroes dropping numb one liners every other word.
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Goatface
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if you take "Days of Future past" out of the series, apocalypse would be seen as a success
no defending Dark Phoenix
Valderen
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So I watched this last night and wasn't very impressed.
The script was not very good. The chemistry between the characters was close to non-existent. It felt like most of the actors phoned it in.
The Sentry stuff was pretty cool, and I thought the actor did a good job.
All in all, a very forgettable movie.
The script was not very good. The chemistry between the characters was close to non-existent. It felt like most of the actors phoned it in.
The Sentry stuff was pretty cool, and I thought the actor did a good job.
All in all, a very forgettable movie.
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People have been complaining about "comic book fatigue" since 2005. If it's a good movie, it'll sell tickets.
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Saved me a watch. I'll pass on this one. I appreciate you taking one for the team.
Vuuxo
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That's why I think it's "bad movie" fatigue. Not superhero fatigue, which I'm sure some people have but like you said... If it's good people will go see it.
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I saw it in theatres. I liked Apocalypse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I didn’t give Dark Phoenix a shot but I think Apocalypse was fun. Haven’t seen it since theatres though. Business wise it had to have even profitable to justify a sequel (Disney does not follow this business model for some reason).
I remember WB considered Batman V Superman a flop in 2016 despite earning $600 M because it didn’t break the 1 B mark. The movie grossed 600 M box office revenue!
Bald Brah
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Well it barely broke even according to the studio and was lampooned mercilessly.
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Looks like the movie profited 126 M. 80% of that came from the BvS: Director's Cut DVD/Blu-Ray revenue surprisingly.
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It was a box office flop that only broke even by the skin of their teeth via DVD/Blu-Ray and then it didn't actually make any money until 10 years later when they released the snyder cut?
Bald Brah
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And aren't the payouts structured differently? Like the original investors won't see any profit from dvd/streaming?
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idk probably, just questioning the logic he used. People think studio exec's are just pulling numbers out of their ass or something. When they say "they like to make X" they mean they need to make that to actually make any fucking money. The numbers they quote aren't arbitrary, its not some internal betting pool they got going on at the studio or some shit.
They didn't consider it a flop, it was a flop. Judging by that statement, it made 400 million dollars less than it needed to make to break even (given that their take is only ~50% of the box office) meaning they lost 200 million dollars and only made that up eventually via DVD/Blu-ray and the movie didnt actually make anyone any god damn money until 10 years later with the release of the snyder cut.
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The directors cut of BVS came out in late summer 2016. The Snyder cut was the Justice League not BVS.
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Log Wizard
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Maybe not so surprising. Disc sales is where movies used to make their profit. Matt Damon talked about this a few years ago. He said they made all their cash on disc sales, and now there's no profit to be made at all unless it goes direct to streaming.
Streaming is killing everything, and only a few streaming services make money, the rest lose a lot of cash on them.
My solution is simple. Return to the old way of doing business. Theatrical release, then 6mo-1yr disc release, then 1 yr after that streaming release.
My concept is simple:
Theatrical release pays for production and advertising.
Disc release is where the majority of profits are made. And no more of these $28 mixed disc releases only. $14.99 blu ray. Hell, with compression as good as it is today, we could skip the blu ray BS altogether and drop them on DVD media with no real loss in a/v quality vs blu ray. Won't have to pay royalties or any BS with that.
Streaming then becomes a source of a little extra cash instead of a black hole for profits.