ThunderCats Roar - Proof there is no God
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I have some friends in the geek community trying to defend this as "old people complaining about this is what's killing new cartoon series"...
I have to step in and call bullshit on that one. The only reason you regurgitate something like Thundercats in a remake is because you want to cash in on the nostalgia that people have about the cartoons they remember from their childhood. Otherwise you could make any other cartoon about anthromorphized animal people , crank through the same tropes, and kids could watch it just fine. It's because you WANT the nostalgia tie in to push the product. Well, with that desire for nostalgia you have to do it well enough not to insult people with fond memories of the original (even if they're overly fond due to the patina of time effect).
If you're just going to press the button on the "remake-o-tron" to see what you need to redo next then you have to at least put together something decent with it. Instead this looks a lot like they're looking for something where they can hire sub-fanfic level writers and use an animation style they can have done with an computer after humans draw the first set of reference character art. Don't do that and expect fans of the originals to fawn over a steaming pile of crap.
I have to step in and call bullshit on that one. The only reason you regurgitate something like Thundercats in a remake is because you want to cash in on the nostalgia that people have about the cartoons they remember from their childhood. Otherwise you could make any other cartoon about anthromorphized animal people , crank through the same tropes, and kids could watch it just fine. It's because you WANT the nostalgia tie in to push the product. Well, with that desire for nostalgia you have to do it well enough not to insult people with fond memories of the original (even if they're overly fond due to the patina of time effect).
If you're just going to press the button on the "remake-o-tron" to see what you need to redo next then you have to at least put together something decent with it. Instead this looks a lot like they're looking for something where they can hire sub-fanfic level writers and use an animation style they can have done with an computer after humans draw the first set of reference character art. Don't do that and expect fans of the originals to fawn over a steaming pile of crap.
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OU Ariakas
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Exactly, and the problem with the art style of this remake is that it screams comedy from a cartoon that was mostly geared towards action with a side of levity. If they did the same art style with GI-Joe or Transformers it would be taken met with the same resistance because they were all action/adventure first with comedic relief to break up tension. The art style alone conveys comedy first which means that action/adventure immediately take a back seat to that until the artist focuses on them. It is a fundamental shift of the core viewing audience which means any old fans will immediately reject it.
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Thats just how cartoon network does shit these days, they take
and turn it into
They did do Thundercats in Anime a while back
But wtf with this new style?
Ok...I hear you. But Teen Titans Go is funny as shit. They get a pass with that one.
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Right? I can't get over that guys hair. I guess he's trying to be delightfully quirky with it, but he looks like a moron. Dude, you're not in college anymore trying to be harmless and quirky..you're an adult now, god damn.
The soy boy stuff is kind of obtuse, but does it ever fit that whole office. Everyone in there seems like they need those testosterone butt pellets. Look at the women's faces, half of them you can tell are thinking "how did I end up working with these weird man-children".
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I don't understand this. Do these companies say, "This dude just came up one day from cleaning out our toilets and wanted a job. We said, why the fuck not? I bet he's going to bring in amazing success for our studios..." This guy's last show was a complete failure.
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Bad.
There's a reason why this kind of animation has has a surge of popularity, and it really isn't a good thing. If you've ever actually had to sit down and watch Teen Titans Go or anything similar, you'd notice that its basically Meme 101 for kids. They respond to the dumb anime faces/reaction shots more than anything else. Rendering everyone and everything into pillowy, easily-reproduced sacks with dumb eyes and a dumb mouth for all your dumb face needs worked up to this point. Guess the backlash shows just how tone-deaf and egregiously unrelated this reboot is to the spirit of the original.
Then again, this isn't being made for 'us.' I still to this day do not understand the ridiculous hype and adult fandom of things like Steven Universe, so safe to say I'm not the target audience for shit like this either.
There's a reason why this kind of animation has has a surge of popularity, and it really isn't a good thing. If you've ever actually had to sit down and watch Teen Titans Go or anything similar, you'd notice that its basically Meme 101 for kids. They respond to the dumb anime faces/reaction shots more than anything else. Rendering everyone and everything into pillowy, easily-reproduced sacks with dumb eyes and a dumb mouth for all your dumb face needs worked up to this point. Guess the backlash shows just how tone-deaf and egregiously unrelated this reboot is to the spirit of the original.
Then again, this isn't being made for 'us.' I still to this day do not understand the ridiculous hype and adult fandom of things like Steven Universe, so safe to say I'm not the target audience for shit like this either.
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Stuff like Adventure Time of Steven Universe, I get, and I love, and I love how they made something that you can enjoy on a very surface level for the silly shit or that you can really delve into if you want.
This though? I think the misfires when trying to retool stuff like this is made so much worse by the fact that they already had a retool, and it was good, it just had no support. Support your fucking products and you will get more people watching. Make a predictable schedule so people don't go months between "bombs" of episodes and people can actually support what they like.
This though? I think the misfires when trying to retool stuff like this is made so much worse by the fact that they already had a retool, and it was good, it just had no support. Support your fucking products and you will get more people watching. Make a predictable schedule so people don't go months between "bombs" of episodes and people can actually support what they like.
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Part of it is that a lot of these cartoons on CN are backed by the toy industry. After a couple seasons no one is buying the toys anymore and so the money gets pulled out. That's why they make cheap-ass cartoons so the toy companies can make cheap-ass toys, both sides cash out, and the show gets scrapped.
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Steven Universe is fairly easy to figure out, the show is basically an allusion to sex and sexual relationships. I saw that within the first two episodes I watched, and if I can see the metaphor, then it must be painfully obvious. It also presses all the buttons that a blue haired activist would love: female empowerment, gender fluidity, same-sex couples, polyamory, being raised in an non-nuclear family, and the object of the father's desire being an overweight pink haired alien.
I'm more surprised that kids even like it.
Adventure time is also easy to figure out, it's a dystopian post-apocalyptic show in a surrealistic style with a coat of kid show paint overtop.
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Hey cuz of that Ronald Reagan EO or whatever that made cartoons based on a toyline legal, we have
a good fucking toy
vs. this shit?
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Yeah, but that was back-in-the-day before video games and the internet were so powerful. Now you have parents giving their kids Ipads to play on at a very young age.
No one's going to invest a ton of money into better toys these days, they're aiming for a quick buck. That's how Young Justice got shit-canned, because kids weren't buying the toys so Mattel yanked the funding.
No one's going to invest a ton of money into better toys these days, they're aiming for a quick buck. That's how Young Justice got shit-canned, because kids weren't buying the toys so Mattel yanked the funding.
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Holy shit. I heard about it this weekend and was excited. I thought the people saying shit like "They're ruining my childhood" were just being drama queens. But fuck, man. For the first time ever I understand that sentiment. Why? Go back to the anime version (which was never given a fair shot) if you're just incapable of imitating the original style.
If you watch that clip, the lead animator dude with the top of head pony tail pretty much explains WTF is going wrong here. Fortunately he looks like a congenital loser. Because if this makes it past 1 season I'm going to have to scrape the emblem off my truck and throw away some shirts.
If you watch that clip, the lead animator dude with the top of head pony tail pretty much explains WTF is going wrong here. Fortunately he looks like a congenital loser. Because if this makes it past 1 season I'm going to have to scrape the emblem off my truck and throw away some shirts.
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