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Seriously, who do we complain to in order a new version of the Matrix? Because this one fucking sucks.
I'm pretty sure Betty White is the Architect.
Alasliasolonik
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Xerge
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Still not spilled. This is legal drama imo which means it could be over anything. I know of a salaried walmart manager who was fired over a forged/fake evaluation signature. Status and money go to a person's head especially 30 and under. Twitch definitely has an agenda here too
Alasliasolonik
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jooka
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Twitch Streamers Flooded With DMCA Copyright Claims On Old Clips
Over the past week, streamers have received an influx of copyright claims on past clips, and Twitch staff recommends removing them.
Interesting timing perhaps.
Mist
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The fact that some people get paid 10s of millions of dollars to play video games and didn't even have to play out their entire contract is really showing how ephemeral and distorted our economy has gotten. Think of how much money these huge companies have that they can just throw amounts of money around that could feed entire villages on some weird media play. Microsoft buys Mixer, spends BILLIONS on it, and then just throws it away and tells people to go to Facebook.
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Kiroy
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god shut the fuck up you energy suck, microsoft didn't spend "billions" on mixer
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joz123
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So because he wasn't taking requests to play copywrighted music and did it on his own that was ok?
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While the sentiment is nice, throwing money at problems doesn't solve them long term. Sure you could feed a village, but for how long? Will you need to scrape up more money later? Over the long term it just ends up being a wasted effort. Infrastructure and education (ie the 'teach a man to fish') are far better long term solutions. That takes time and effort though, and sometimes the needy don't truly want help.
Mist
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I didn't say they purchased it for billions but they definitely spent billions of dollars on it over the 4 years they owned it, with operating costs, payments to Partners, etc. They paid Ninja 50 million alone for a contract he never even got to play out. If you don't think their total operating costs for 4 years were at least 20x what they paid Ninja in a single contract, then I don't know how you think math works.
Kiroy
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you're literally just making up numbers
either way, shut the fuck up, this isn't the marxist cunt thread
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Mist
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You completely missed what I'm saying. I know how economics work. I'm not saying Microsoft should have spent the money feeding people. I'm just putting quantities of money in proportional scale.
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So because he wasn't taking requests to play copywrighted music and did it on his own that was ok?
Huh? I think my point was just related to the proportional response of banning the biggest streamer Twitch currently had. In retrospect
jooka
may not have been drawing an inference to Doc's banning at all. Just the overall DMCA crap happening at the same time. But yeah, I think I get your point.
Mist
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Ninja was making 10 million a year @ Twitch. Microsoft paid Ninja at least 30 million and likely closer to 50 million to switch.
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Those contracts have to be retarded on every side. Like, if Ninja can make $10M streaming on Twitch doing his thing (not downplaying his sponsors, branding, social media outreach, etc...) and expect some % growth per year..... the contract to move him away from that has to include a ludicrous upfront in hand payment. Think about NFL contracts and guaranteed cash just because there's nothing to leverage your life against that either A) Mixer will exist for an arbitrary (annoying word to spell when drunk) length of time or B) your popularity will. So if his management team was smart, and we'll assume they were, he got paid a shit ton to switch for more than he'd make on Twitch in a Year+X% and now gets to go back to making money. Crazy.
jooka
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Huh? I think my point was just related to the proportional response of banning the biggest streamer Twitch currently had. In retrospect
I was thinking of it as twitch is having a seriously fucked up 2(ish) weeks that something bigger seems to be at play with all of this hitting at the same time.
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