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Chanur

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I don't think Asmon even gets ad revenue on Twitch anymore. I don't see why he would be the one view boting. He was showing he got like 3 bucks for the previous month recently.
 
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Aazrael

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I don't think Asmon even gets ad revenue on Twitch anymore. I don't see why he would be the one view boting.
Yea I think he showed his ad earnings the other day, it was like pennies compared to his Kick stream.
 
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Haus

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Goddammit Haus why are you trying so hard to make me say "OK Boomer".

How much is the early bird special at Golden Corral these days?
First off... It's "OK Gen-Xer". But I wholly expect you've forgotten that generation exists, everybody else did.

Second, you get the better discount at Dennys. But so far I have yet to actually pay the senior price. ;)
 
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jooka

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I don't think Asmon even gets ad revenue on Twitch anymore. I don't see why he would be the one view boting. He was showing he got like 3 bucks for the previous month recently.


If he was doing it himself, it would be a superficial reasoning like having that many more viewers than someone like hasan.
 

Cybsled

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I don't think Asmon even gets ad revenue on Twitch anymore. I don't see why he would be the one view boting. He was showing he got like 3 bucks for the previous month recently.

He doesn't - Twitch forced ads on him anyways. He makes most of his ad revenue from his Youtube videos
 
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jayrebb

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Asmon had a big diatribe back when the whole "view botting" thing got discovered/became widely discussed. At the core of his argument was the observation that Twitch, as a platform, was making little to no meaningful effort to address or curtail the practice. It's not really a surprise he'd resort to it as well.

Nobody ever believed Mizkif did those numbers at 5 AM US time when he was in Japan.

They should have focused on Tectone and Mizkif.

Using Asmon's name to signal-boost it, you know, the guy who actually CAN pull those numbers under the right circumstances, was fucking stupid.

Focus on the OTK members who are clearly abusing bots like Mizkif, or ethots like Mira (who has been officially banned for botting)
 
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Always enjoy Devin Nash's videos on industry stuff like this.
 
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Utnayan

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Why can't we just ban this and force all these idiots to work at McDonalds?
 
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Fadaar

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Industry destroying you say? All while scamming the advertising departments that I hate? *desire to learn more intensified*

On the one hand there are good streamers who get drowned out by the bots. On the other hand, fuck advertisers. Seeing them get ass raped in the wallet brings me joy.
 
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GuardianX

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Asmon had a big diatribe back when the whole "view botting" thing got discovered/became widely discussed. At the core of his argument was the observation that Twitch, as a platform, was making little to no meaningful effort to address or curtail the practice. It's not really a surprise he'd resort to it as well.

He made some comment about how it was his agency likely doing it.

I mean it's not like it matters anyhow, I don't think anyone pays him to do things like sponsored streams anymore and he makes little to no ad revenue on twitch. Almost ALL of his money comes from donations and subs.

Is it profitable to buy subs for yourself? I know there is the psych component of starting your own sub train or whatever and then you double down. But, do we really think that the dude hat has roaches around his house that does his own home maintenance and falls through the attic is paying for fake subs to boost real subs?
 

Fadaar

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He made some comment about how it was his agency likely doing it.

I mean it's not like it matters anyhow, I don't think anyone pays him to do things like sponsored streams anymore and he makes little to no ad revenue on twitch. Almost ALL of his money comes from donations and subs.

Is it profitable to buy subs for yourself? I know there is the psych component of starting your own sub train or whatever and then you double down. But, do we really think that the dude hat has roaches around his house that does his own home maintenance and falls through the attic is paying for fake subs to boost real subs?

Prior to him going on hiatus due to his dad's health he'd have like 4 videos a day on his YouTube channel hitting 500k+ views, the vast majority of them 15-20 minutes or longer. He makes fucking bank off that channel. He only streams because he wants to and then his editors turn around and cut the stream into the 4+ videos for YouTube. So yeah, him not giving a shit about Twitch and calling them and everyone else out on botting checks out.
 
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Xevy

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Gifting subs to yourself is tax deductable and you're getting half the money back. That's why all these "bets" where people lose mean nothing. They're writing it all off and the odds that some people resub from a gift sub is high enough that it's generally worth it when people can do it.

Some corpos funnel money to streamers through gifted subs through shell accounts. Usually just to get into their good graces. I'm not sure how much backdoor #ad stuff actually happens, but I'm sure it does somewhere. I'd bet more likely on Kick as Twitch is more particular about where the money, that they're getting half of, is coming from.
 
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Fadaar

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Gifting subs to yourself is tax deductable and you're getting half the money back. That's why all these "bets" where people lose mean nothing. They're writing it all off and the odds that some people resub from a gift sub is high enough that it's generally worth it when people can do it.

Some corpos funnel money to streamers through gifted subs through shell accounts. Usually just to get into their good graces. I'm not sure how much backdoor #ad stuff actually happens, but I'm sure it does somewhere. I'd bet more likely on Kick as Twitch is more particular about where the money, that they're getting half of, is coming from.

do companies even bother with sponsored streams on Kick though?