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hodj said:
While being a faggot should be a fallacy, it is not.

But if it were your performance during this debate would be used in logic textbooks the world over to define it
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Yay! I'm finally famous!

'Gerbil's Law of Faggotry'. Can we call it that? I don't know the rules.
 
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The gayest thing you've ever done is spell my name with a dge.

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y'all making me pine for the days when people were arguing with Vanessa over treating children for GD
 
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Erronius said:
y'all making me pine for the days when people were arguing with Vanessa over treating children for GD
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Y'all making me pine for the days most of us were just hanging out in here to see who would get outted eventually trying to hit on Vanessa Vanessa and/or get outted trolling for personalized porn.
 
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Erronius said:
y'all making me pine for the days when people were arguing with Vanessa over treating children for GD
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Awww, Erro... stop looking at me with those puppy dog eyes! Gosh, how can anyone resist?

Okay, okay; just for you! (see below!)

This should make the peanut gallery lose their collective minds yet again.

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Phazael said:
I agree in principle, but this noble line of thought does not survive contact with the real world. As a former music student, current nerd, and former college employee, I have known many trannies over the years, far more than I am comfortable admitting. I gave up when even the most rational ones (and I include Van in this group, sadly enough) got on board with this fucking with prepubescent kid shit. That is my personal red line and Lithose comparing it to Lobotomies is very very apt. They jump on that shit like its some miracle silver bullet despite even the friendliest studies to their cause stating flat out that they have no clue what the long term effects will be on even actual gender dysphoria (that tiny miniscule mutation of the population) people. They are willing to treat other people's kids like lab rats for god knows what fucking reason. I cannot abide that. A group with a coinflip suicide rate should NOT be pushing ANYTHING on children, period end of sentence. And of the remaining half that do not off themselves, the vast majority are lonely and depressed ESPECIALLY the FtM ones, who are the smallest minority of the chopper demographic. And every time Van gets confronted with this, he hand waves it away with an ad hominem attack and regurgitates the same shit.

And you are wrong about something else. When someone does this, nearly all of their identity is wrapped into being a trans person. Look no further than all the choppers that have come and gone on this board for examples. I think MsB was the only one that stuck solely to nerd discussion, with his fake funbags coming up only occasionally. Ms B was a good tranny. He posted about gamer shit, could take a joke, and did not shine a spotlite on his tranny hobby 24/7.

One area Hodj is dead right on is pointing out the folly of being a tranny and a creationist. Individually those stances are things you might or might not support in a vacuum. But for two diametrically conflicting world views to exist in the same person with complete adherence? That's a sign of deeper issues, and where I started loosing interest in engaging Van. How can you engage someone who won't even acknowledge fundamental conflicts in their deeply held personal viewpoints? Short answer, you can't. All you can do is point out the insanity to others so that they can draw their own conclusions. Direct dialog is impossible, because you are dealing with a cultist, an insane person, or some combination of the two.
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Feels, feels, feels... no facts.

Heh in all seriousness, I'll actually devote the time to destroy your post reply to you, however, since I'm not pissed off like I was the last time you waltzed in here and joined the dogpile. First paragraph besides one quote merely restates your position that puberty-blockers are bad, and people have no clue what the long term effects are of using puberty blockers. Let's, for starters, get familiar with something both you guys and myself have failed to address: Precocious Puberty.

Puberty blockers (yes the same puberty blockers used on trannies) are the exact same meds (called GnRH agonists) used for Precocious Puberty as transgender youth.

In this paper's summary, it states:

"The available data indicate that therapy with GnRH analogs can improve final height into the range of target height without significant adverse short-term and long-term effects, but longer follow-up of larger series of patients is still required to draw definitive conclusions."

They're saying puberty blockers are safe, but need more research to draw definitive conclusions (amazing, I've been saying from the word GO that we need to study all of this more). Part of the reason more research needs to be done is that this study focused on the boys instead of girls (girls deal with CPP much more than boys for whatever reason).

Likewise, in this study, it states:

"This treatment was largely reported to be effective, especially in patients who were diagnosed with CPP younger than 6 years of age and had received treatment, and GnRHa treatment did not seem to have a particularly adverse effect on reproductive function or bone growth."

Again, nothing mentioned of the sort that puberty blockers are harmful (though their concerns are increasing, still state blockers are, overall, effective and safe). Furthermore, they said "effective especially in patients younger than 6", which means (I assume?) that these were the patients ON puberty blockers the longest.

Lastly, in this study, it states:

"The aim of various therapeutic methods was to suppress the pituitary gonadal function, in precocious puberty also long-term administration of GnRH agonists has proved remarkably safe and effective."

So here's the pitiful reality of the situation: Even if you boys successfully banned trannies from taking puberty blockers, there would be kids out there STILL administered puberty blockers in which their specific diagnosis has NOTHING to do with their gender or them being trannies. In all 3 studies I linked, it doesn't even MENTION trannies; just the meds which tranny youth take.

This is, of course, STILL denying the several other papers I cited indicating puberty blockers are effective for trannies too. But that's what you guys do: Dismiss the evidence, post NO links, citations, or references to scientific evidence pointing to the contrary. As for the suicidality of trannies; be patient... I have a whopper incoming in due time. Just gathering the last bit of resources and fact-checking it to ensure legitimacy.

I get it (you people love to claim that I don't though). Your argument is ethics-driven (likening it to lobotomies). THEN POST EVIDENCE THAT CHILDREN ARE BEING HARMED instead of virtue-signaling "but but but... the children" without backing your stance.

Phazael said:
They are willing to treat other people's kids like lab rats for god knows what fucking reason.
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This is where your post goes off the rails and into there are monsters under the bed type of paranoia and fear. OMG They're coming for our kids!!! No, Phaz, the kids who are having some kooky gender-based behavior and showing discomfort/incongruence and the parents of said kids are coming to the doctors to get their kids some help. The doctors and shrinks aren't the ones knocking on people's doors demanding that your kids get hormones... the concerned families are taking them TO the doctor (duh).

Here's a hypothetical for you (really though, anyone can play) because I don't know (nor care tbh): Do YOU have a child Phaz? If yes, is your child normal? If yes, then terrific: I don't give a fuck about your child. (pro-tip: No one else besides your friends, family do either). Raise your child as you see fit and stay away from gender clinics, puberty blockers and all of that tom-fuckery. Find me someone who is demanding that your NORMAL kid be given hormones or anything of the sort and I will stand with you and denounce them alongside you. I'll draw my line in the sand where medical research verifies something as safe and effective. But activists looking to bypass MENTAL HEALTH SCREENINGS just because they "feel" dehumanized? Fuck that.

Phazael said:
I think MsB was the only one that stuck solely to nerd discussion, with his fake funbags coming up only occasionally. Ms B was a good tranny.
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MsBehavin was a crossdresser, hate to break it to you and those weren't implants... they were massively pushed up male boobs and a shitload of fake padding. So the only good tranny (according to you) the forum has had wasn't even a real tranny to begin with. LoL!

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And every time Van gets confronted with this, he hand waves it away with an ad hominem attack and regurgitates the same shit.
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I called you fat. You are. You call me he. I am (a biological male). I've never demanded you call me anything different because I don't give a fuck what you call me. This forum can attack me with other kinds of ad hominems, but I'm somehow not allowed to fire back? Get fucking real. When shitstains like Mario say, and I quote "All trannies need to put a shotgun in their mouth" or Punko calling us "freakshows", why don't YOU explain to me how that is NOT pure, hateful bigotry at play? Yes I will call out bigotry when it is bigotry. Posters like OneofOne, Gerbil, Pharma can effectively disagree with me without being hateful bigots. This isn't calculus here.

By regurgitating the same shit, you mean posting actual research and accepting said research as factually true? Hohoho I will MOST CERTAINLY take that as quite the compliment. Much more than you have done ONCE in this argument.

Phazael said:
One area Hodj is dead right on is pointing out the folly of being a tranny and a creationist. Individually those stances are things you might or might not support in a vacuum. But for two diametrically conflicting world views to exist in the same person with complete adherence? That's a sign of deeper issues, and where I started loosing interest in engaging Van. How can you engage someone who won't even acknowledge fundamental conflicts in their deeply held personal viewpoints? Short answer, you can't. All you can do is point out the insanity to others so that they can draw their own conclusions. Direct dialog is impossible, because you are dealing with a cultist, an insane person, or some combination of the two.
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Pay real close attention Phazael... I'll make this fun for you by making it into a quiz-like scenario.

Do you think depressed people who take Zoloft are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
Do you think individuals who get rhinoplasty to improve their appearance are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
Do you think people who legally change their name either via marriage or because they don't like to be called Mervin anymore and instead like to be called Vincent now are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No

I take meds to deal with Gender Dysphoria. I got surgeries to deal with Gender Dysphoria. I changed my name because I can't look like I do and be called Steve without confusing the ever-living shit out of people and uprooting societal norms. <---these are NOT opinions or a stretch of the truth; these are the realities of my life.

Me telling a gay man "You will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven because you're gay" is NOT my place. I'm not the judge. Our heavenly Father is. But hey... here in clown world, atheists tell Christians what God thinks! Here in clown world, trannies post research papers backing up their claims while the so-called rationals just post "feels". Honk Honk!!!
 
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Vanessa said:
Feels, feels, feels... no facts.

Heh in all seriousness, I'll actually devote the time to destroy your post reply to you, however, since I'm not pissed off like I was the last time you waltzed in here and joined the dogpile. First paragraph besides one quote merely restates your position that puberty-blockers are bad, and people have no clue what the long term effects are of using puberty blockers. Let's, for starters, get familiar with something both you guys and myself have failed to address: Precocious Puberty.

Puberty blockers (yes the same puberty blockers used on trannies) are the exact same meds (called GnRH agonists) used for Precocious Puberty as transgender youth.

In this paper's summary, it states:

"The available data indicate that therapy with GnRH analogs can improve final height into the range of target height without significant adverse short-term and long-term effects, but longer follow-up of larger series of patients is still required to draw definitive conclusions."

They're saying puberty blockers are safe, but need more research to draw definitive conclusions (amazing, I've been saying from the word GO that we need to study all of this more). Part of the reason more research needs to be done is that this study focused on the boys instead of girls (girls deal with CPP much more than boys for whatever reason).

Likewise, in this study, it states:

"This treatment was largely reported to be effective, especially in patients who were diagnosed with CPP younger than 6 years of age and had received treatment, and GnRHa treatment did not seem to have a particularly adverse effect on reproductive function or bone growth."

Again, nothing mentioned of the sort that puberty blockers are harmful (though their concerns are increasing, still state blockers are, overall, effective and safe). Furthermore, they said "effective especially in patients younger than 6", which means (I assume?) that these were the patients ON puberty blockers the longest.

Lastly, in this study, it states:

"The aim of various therapeutic methods was to suppress the pituitary gonadal function, in precocious puberty also long-term administration of GnRH agonists has proved remarkably safe and effective."

So here's the pitiful reality of the situation: Even if you boys successfully banned trannies from taking puberty blockers, there would be kids out there STILL administered puberty blockers in which their specific diagnosis has NOTHING to do with their gender or them being trannies. In all 3 studies I linked, it doesn't even MENTION trannies; just the meds which tranny youth take.

This is, of course, STILL denying the several other papers I cited indicating puberty blockers are effective for trannies too. But that's what you guys do: Dismiss the evidence, post NO links, citations, or references to scientific evidence pointing to the contrary. As for the suicidality of trannies; be patient... I have a whopper incoming in due time. Just gathering the last bit of resources and fact-checking it to ensure legitimacy.

I get it (you people love to claim that I don't though). Your argument is ethics-driven (likening it to lobotomies). THEN POST EVIDENCE THAT CHILDREN ARE BEING HARMED instead of virtue-signaling "but but but... the children" without backing your stance.


This is where your post goes off the rails and into there are monsters under the bed type of paranoia and fear. OMG They're coming for our kids!!! No, Phaz, the kids who are having some kooky gender-based behavior and showing discomfort/incongruence and the parents of said kids are coming to the doctors to get their kids some help. The doctors and shrinks aren't the ones knocking on people's doors demanding that your kids get hormones... the concerned families are taking them TO the doctor (duh).

Here's a hypothetical for you (really though, anyone can play) because I don't know (nor care tbh): Do YOU have a child Phaz? If yes, is your child normal? If yes, then terrific: I don't give a fuck about your child. (pro-tip: No one else besides your friends, family do either). Raise your child as you see fit and stay away from gender clinics, puberty blockers and all of that tom-fuckery. Find me someone who is demanding that your NORMAL kid be given hormones or anything of the sort and I will stand with you and denounce them alongside you. I'll draw my line in the sand where medical research verifies something as safe and effective. But activists looking to bypass MENTAL HEALTH SCREENINGS just because they "feel" dehumanized? Fuck that.


MsBehavin was a crossdresser, hate to break it to you and those weren't implants... they were massively pushed up male boobs and a shitload of fake padding. So the only good tranny (according to you) the forum has had wasn't even a real tranny to begin with. LoL!


I called you fat. You are. You call me he. I am (a biological male). I've never demanded you call me anything different because I don't give a fuck what you call me. This forum can attack me with other kinds of ad hominems, but I'm somehow not allowed to fire back? Get fucking real. When shitstains like Mario say, and I quote "All trannies need to put a shotgun in their mouth" or Punko calling us "freakshows", why don't YOU explain to me how that is NOT pure, hateful bigotry at play? Yes I will call out bigotry when it is bigotry. Posters like OneofOne, Gerbil, Pharma can effectively disagree with me without being hateful bigots. This isn't calculus here.

By regurgitating the same shit, you mean posting actual research and accepting said research as factually true? Hohoho I will MOST CERTAINLY take that as quite the compliment. Much more than you have done ONCE in this argument.


Pay real close attention Phazael... I'll make this fun for you by making it into a quiz-like scenario.

Do you think depressed people who take Zoloft are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
Do you think individuals who get rhinoplasty to improve their appearance are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
Do you think people who legally change their name either via marriage or because they don't like to be called Mervin anymore and instead like to be called Vincent now are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No

I take meds to deal with Gender Dysphoria. I got surgeries to deal with Gender Dysphoria. I changed my name because I can't look like I do and be called Steve without confusing the ever-living shit out of people and uprooting societal norms. <---these are NOT opinions or a stretch of the truth; these are the realities of my life.

Me telling a gay man "You will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven because you're gay" is NOT my place. I'm not the judge. Our heavenly Father is. But hey... here in clown world, atheists tell Christians what God thinks! Here in clown world, trannies post research papers backing up their claims while the so-called rationals just post "feels". Honk Honk!!!
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And again you literally proved my point for me. We didn't meme terfs into existence the chopper Brigade made up the term to push lesbians off the pity train.
 
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Vanessa said:
Do you think depressed people who take Zoloft are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
Do you think individuals who get rhinoplasty to improve their appearance are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
Do you think people who legally change their name either via marriage or because they don't like to be called Mervin anymore and instead like to be called Vincent now are committing a sin in God's eyes? Yes or No
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I'd like your answers to these questions.
 
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Government should ban the tranny surgery and hormone treatment. It is clearly killing them and not offering effective solution.
 
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As a father to a kid, but also as a person very sensitive/friendly to the lgbt community I personally feel that my child is not equipped to make decisions like this until he is older. I know people that came out of the womb gay and people that transitioned post op after some really hard years in the late teens and early 20s to varying degrees of later success.

I do think that some comprehensive awareness and counseling/ early identification is valuable from a mental health perspective, but I have to draw the line personally at making physical modifications in youth to their body no matter how temporary they could be.

I think counseling is just as important for the family as it is the individual because societal placement / identity / acceptance is equally important to successful outcomes, not simply how someone looks.

There are many areas to be explored here such as alternative early years education for non traditional youth to minimize suicide rates etc.
 
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