They're both fetishes that are also tied in with sexuality. So why is this one bad, but the other isn't? Can we agree that fetishes have no place around children?
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They're both fetishes that are also tied in with sexuality. So why is this one bad, but the other isn't? Can we agree that fetishes have no place around children?
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I was more referring to pedophilia, which should not be normalized. I brought up cakes and the christian thing because the LGBTQ community (though that editorial writer) is lashing out at the Christians saying they "didn't have to go there", and "shouldn't have been there". Well, that gay couple could have just gone go to a different cake shop too. You can't apply one standard to yourself, and expect others to follow a different one. If you want equality, then you get equality for better or worse.
And you truly have no problem with drag queen story hour? Well, that's fine I suppose, it's certainly your right. What about BDSM story hour? I have no problem if a transgender wants to go have a story hour with kids on a book written by a transgender. Or gay. Or lesbian. But drag queen? That's a fetish, and that shit is too far.
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You made a huge jump from "drag queen reads to some kids" to "pedophilia being normalized" and I have no idea how you got there. I mean, you're saying that well that gay couple could have gone to a different cake shop, but that's exactly the outcome of that court case, so what are you even arguing? You want some rando who wrote a letter to the editor to be internally consistent with the entirety of the gay rights movement? If equality is equality, well the cake issue was decided.
I wouldn't take my kids to a drag queen story hour, but no, I don't have an issue if someone else wants to. I think the BDSM thing is a false equivalence. I don't think being a drag queen is a fetish, it's performance art, not really a sex thing. If it was just a crossdresser or something, sure, but a drag queen is a specific thing.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but why? What is the value in doing so? Also, you suggest that normalizing sexual behaviors is a good thing. Does that apply to all? Which ones do prefer to marginalize?
I think the objection is that it is because it is viewed by many as an aberrant sexual behavior rooted in auto-eroticism. Nothing wrong with that as an adult so long as the bhavior does not impact the lives of others, but what is the value of introducing that sort of material to children?
What about story time from the dominatrix or exhibitionist? I'll agree there is nothing inherently wrong people who do those things reading stories to children, however instituting the behavior as a theme for the story time I find unsettling.
Also, don't understand why you went to gay porn. I think the people objecting would object to straighten porn the same.
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AladainAF
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The entire first half of my post was about normalization of pedophilia, then I went into drag queen story hour to illustrate the further "normalization of [this] sexual behavior". Nearly my entire post was concerning pedophilia.
I guess dressing up as a pony and being led around in a leash is also performance art in your mind, but what do I know.
I know it's a common thing for people to not take time to think about, but there is a vast difference between someone being gay, or bi, or whatever, and someone that lives their life with it as their identity. A gay person reading to kids is perfectly fine. A gay person reading to kids while in cut off shorts and a shirt that has something about anal sex written on it is not. Transvestites/ drag queens are fetishists, most often a sexual fetish. They aren't reading to kids for the sake of reading to kids, they're reading to kids in an attempt to normalize their fetish, if not to drag kids into their orbit.
You think this because you don't spend time with them. Anyone that does knows full fucking well that it is a fetish. The same as Furry's are fetishists even if their costume play is often "performance art".
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Do you want to know why you think of one as a fetish and one as not being one? Because society has come to accept drag queens under the LGBT umbrella, and you're programmed to accept them as a result, whereas BDSM is still looked down upon.
I have no problem with queens reading to kids: If they're doing it just as reading to kids and without the dressup or as even identifying what they are, because this is just projecting their deviancy on children, which is a big fucking red flag to anyone with any sense.
You think this because you don't spend time with them. Anyone that does knows full fucking well that it is a fetish. The same as Furry's are fetishists even if their costume play is often "performance art".
AladainAF
will very likely back me up on this as a furry.Do you want to know why you think of one as a fetish and one as not being one? Because society has come to accept drag queens under the LGBT umbrella, and you're programmed to accept them as a result, whereas BDSM is still looked down upon.
I have no problem with queens reading to kids: If they're doing it just as reading to kids and without the dressup or as even identifying what they are, because this is just projecting their deviancy on children, which is a big fucking red flag to anyone with any sense.
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Bro, I've met drag queens. It isn't a sex thing, it's a performance thing. I don't really understand the furry thing so I can't comment on that, but it strikes me as very different in that it is directly tied to sex where drag queens are gay dudes who dress up as women, put on a show, then take that shit off and go fuck other gay dudes as gay dudes. I don't agree that it's comparable to even what transvestites are.
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I do think it's important to normalize homosexuality, and I don't think it's comparable to the stuff you have up there. But I also don't think having big confrontational drag queen book readings is a good way to do that, or really even does that at all. It's tempting to say that kids won't understand but the type of person who takes their kids to an event like that has probably already exposed their kids to Rupaul's Drag Race or some other shit. I don't know, I get the urge to roll hard but it seems like that's a pretty counter-productive effort.
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AladainAF
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Correct.
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You think this because you don't spend time with them. Anyone that does knows full fucking well that it is a fetish. The same as Furry's are fetishists even if their costume play is often "performance art".
Furries are hard to classify to be honest but in general, I wouldn't have a problem calling the every day furry fandom a fetish over anthro animals.
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Alright, let me rephrase something now that I've thought on it. Not all drag queens are fetishists. However, I do believe that all drag queens that take it far enough to reading to children to indulge in their attempts to perform for the public have taken it to an unhealthy level that I think is well within the fetishist territory.
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I'll say this, lost in all this posting is the fact that I think this event was pretty dumb. It isn't going to broaden horizons or promote inclusive attitudes among smalltown America, it's only going to stir up shit. I feel about this the same way I feel about the straight pride thing, it just isn't in me to understand how someone chooses to spend their spare time doing this. I already have little enough of that, I already have guilt over not spending enough time with my kids or yardwork or whatever the fuck, it's a pretty long list of shit I have going on before I get to "hey fuck it, let's hit the drag queen book reading." But I also don't think it's some big deal either, much like the straight pride thing.
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Hey guys I've self exiled myself from my salty thread for 3 days to prove a pointless point to no one because I thought it would be funny.
I may or may not have regrets about this decision. But I'm thinking about taking up shitposting camp back in this, my other thread, for those three days.
What say you all?
I may or may not have regrets about this decision. But I'm thinking about taking up shitposting camp back in this, my other thread, for those three days.
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This isn't worth fighting bro.
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I think that sounds like a lot of goddamn attention whoring behavior, which only continues to prove my point about trannies and the internet.
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whatever happened to sharingThis isn't worth fighting bro.
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