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Sludig said:
Initial results on blood test when I went to the T dr. Had been talked about in here or else I'd jump into health problems. Just seeing if anyone see's anything crazy or noteworthy. August is my next appointment, be interesting to see what enclomiphene did in 2-3 months, unless it's massive result still going to I think switch to injecting. I think I'm less sleepy with less sleep than normal. Maybe not as sore for as much housework as I've done this week. But nothing yet that's outside the range of placebo effect.

Taking a little boron and DHEA just based off my probably bullshit reading around online.

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Your T is relatively low but your estradiol is high? Not trying to be an asshole but are you significantly overweight? Thats usually how guys end up with high estradiol, but if you are a high-aromatizer of testosterone then if/when you went on TRT your estradiol would be through the roof which isn't fun.

Also I'd probably start taking a vitamin D supplement, yours isn't low but 80-100 is better for that.

Your TSH is also a bit elevated; you might have primary hypothyroid. When the TSH is elevated but the free T4/T3 is relatively low, it means the thyroid isn't doing it's job very well. This can all be part of the same metabolic syndrome thats causing your elevated glucose, elevated estradiol and relatively low free T4.

Gymbro advice would be TRT/reta which would address your metabolic syndrome and hormones, and then weight training.
 
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Your T is relatively low but your estradiol is high? Not trying to be an asshole but are you significantly overweight? Thats usually how guys end up with high estradiol, but if you are a high-aromatizer of testosterone then if/when you went on TRT your estradiol would be through the roof which isn't fun.

Also I'd probably start taking a vitamin D supplement, yours isn't low but 80-100 is better for that.

Your TSH is also a bit elevated; you might have primary hypothyroid. When the TSH is elevated but the free T4/T3 is relatively low, it means the thyroid isn't doing it's job very well. This can all be part of the same metabolic syndrome thats causing your elevated glucose, elevated estradiol and relatively low free T4.

Gymbro advice would be TRT/reta which would address your metabolic syndrome and hormones, and then weight training.
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In previous posts, 6'1 195.

Ya need to find a bottle of D I misplaced, also have a higher quality multi and zinc/mag/b6 I started this year
 
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In previous posts, 6'1 195.
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If you get on TRT your estradiol will be through the roof then, be prepared. You'll probably need an aromatase inhibitor at some point. If you get on, get labs again with estradiol sensitive about 8-10 weeks after you start so you can see where your e2 is settling out.
 
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If you get on TRT your estradiol will be through the roof then, be prepared. You'll probably need an aromatase inhibitor at some point. If you get on, get labs again with estradiol sensitive about 8-10 weeks after you start so you can see where your e2 is settling out.
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I'll ask about it. Rural area I don't have a decent GP, need to find a good doc to maybe examine don't of these results for your concerns and the kidney stuff
 
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I'll ask about it. Rural area I don't have a decent GP, need to find a good doc to maybe examine don't of these results for your concerns and the kidney stuff
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I honestly wouldn't count on a GP being much help on this sort of thing, doctors are good at keeping you alive, they are not good at quality of life things.
 
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I honestly wouldn't count on a GP being much help on this sort of thing, doctors are good at keeping you alive, they are not good at quality of life things.
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Well anything to address it I suspect might need prescriptions, so if the T doc doesn't really want to look into them, not sure who I should seek. An actual endocrinologist etc?
 
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Well anything to address it I suspect might need prescriptions, so if the T doc doesn't really want to look into them, not sure who I should seek. An actual endocrinologist etc?
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All the gymbro stuff you can get online grey market/underground. Go to your dr first but most guys don't have good luck with that route.
 
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I believe you posted her for the beneficial parts of the video. But she has "those eyes" and definitely feels like she comes off as one of the girls from the trainer clique in the gym. "Im not trying your cream cheese chicken protein pasta disaster of a dish, Abigail"
 
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If you get on TRT your estradiol will be through the roof then, be prepared. You'll probably need an aromatase inhibitor at some point. If you get on, get labs again with estradiol sensitive about 8-10 weeks after you start so you can see where your e2 is settling out.
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DIMpro 100 is an decent over the counter option for that, rather than another prescription for a stronger med.
 
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All the gymbro stuff you can get online grey market/underground. Go to your dr first but most guys don't have good luck with that route.
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Shit man, I wouldn't trust any of that. No telling what they really sell you. Probably part of the reason so many kids and young adults get sick and take too much (along with the body dysmorphia, of course).
 
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Sludig Sludig you diabetic or was that not a fasting test? 101 glucose is just outside of the normal range, but if it was post meal it's totally normal
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They told me I didn't need to fast, I just happened to not eat that morning. Wish I could remember if I had a sugar free energy drink or something, I think at least a zyn.
 
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They told me I didn't need to fast, I just happened to not eat that morning. Wish I could remember if I had a sugar free energy drink or something, I think at least a zyn.
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If you actually didn't eat that morning then the glucose number points to prediabetes... probably the same metabolic syndrome thats driving your other numbers, they're all interrelated.
 
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If you actually didn't eat that morning then the glucose number points to prediabetes... probably the same metabolic syndrome thats driving your other numbers, they're all interrelated.
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Which I'll see what the DO says, otherwise would like it looked at by whatever the appropriate specialist would be, rather than trying to research and wing it thru the gym rat side even if some of it might be applicable to part of it. Granted improving one certainly could help the rest.

Might be hard without a bunch of further tests since I don't think I can point to any symptoms
 
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Which I'll see what the DO says, otherwise would like it looked at by whatever the appropriate specialist would be, rather than trying to research and wing it thru the gym rat side even if some of it might be applicable to part of it. Granted improving one certainly could help the rest.

Might be hard without a bunch of further tests since I don't think I can point to any symptoms
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Your T isn't low enough that doctors are going to do anything IMO, but good luck, report back what they say. The male health clinics probably would but they're relatively expensive for what you get.
 
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Your T isn't low enough that doctors are going to do anything IMO, but good luck, report back what they say. The male health clinics probably would but they're relatively expensive for what you get.
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The free T was 5 below range in the table above, he wanted to start me on injection T but I said I wanted to see if the enclonphine would get my natural production high enough on its own.

It's not too bad, about 200/3 months for T or the enclono, at least initial visit only 30 with insurance. I forget the other common thing that recently went thru the roof because of reclassification.
 
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The free T was 5 below range in the table above, he wanted to start me on injection T but I said I wanted to see if the enclonphine would get my natural production high enough on its own.

It's not too bad, about 200/3 months for T or the enclono, at least initial visit only 30 with insurance. I forget the other common thing that recently went thru the roof because of reclassification.
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Yea, your free T is slightly below range even though your total T is not because of your relatively high SHBG. Which is even more concerning about your estradiol is out of range even considering the high SHBG and relatively low total T.

This is definitely a bit more complicated metabolic situation than most of the gymbro guys, you've got something extra going on other than just low T.
 
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Sludig said:
The free T was 5 below range in the table above, he wanted to start me on injection T but I said I wanted to see if the enclonphine would get my natural production high enough on its own.

It's not too bad, about 200/3 months for T or the enclono, at least initial visit only 30 with insurance. I forget the other common thing that recently went thru the roof because of reclassification.
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If your primary doc is willing to give you a T script, get it (and probably an AI to go along with it), but just know that you'll probably need to research and manage your own injections/stats. You can get a script from any of the billion online T clinics, but they'll just be charging you more.
 
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