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You can get pretty good deals on new cars if it's a model that has been on the market for a few years. This is usually when all the teething problems have been sorted out too. If you don't care about driving the "old" model when the new one comes out a year later it can be a pretty good deal.
 
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Wish I had a cool evening and a nice road after this week in my jag. But instead I'm in my garage at 95degree's trying to build my 1 ton feed tote to get cattle feed this weekend.
I’m not doing that, but it’s also too hot here and I’m in a pretty foul/depressed mood. Hopefully we figure it out, right?
 

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One of the cars getting refreshed full body PPF and ceramic coating

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Anyone know any excellent dent pullers/paint touch-up guys in the Dallas area (Prefer Richardson or something closer north). I don't trust these country bumpkins out here to do a good job, especially with touch-up work.
 

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Anyone know any excellent dent pullers/paint touch-up guys in the Dallas area (Prefer Richardson or something closer north). I don't trust these country bumpkins out here to do a good job, especially with touch-up work.
The place I went for paint/body work has changed hands since then, and they moved to a new, much larger looking location (Stuart's in Plano). I vaguely recall reading that the new owners aren't nearly as good as the old ones.

I would recommend looking at what the word of mouth is like by searching the regional forums at the three most popular enthusiest sites:
I think BMW is www.bimmerpost.com, but it's a bit harder to navigate, as each model has it's own forum set. Here is the BMW 3/4 F30 regional one:​
 
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The place I went for paint/body work has changed hands since then, and they moved to a new, much larger looking location (Stuart's in Plano). I vaguely recall reading that the new owners aren't nearly as good as the old ones.

I would recommend looking at what the word of mouth is like by searching the regional forums at the three most popular enthusiest sites:
I think BMW is www.bimmerpost.com, but it's a bit harder to navigate, as each model has it's own forum set. Here is the BMW 3/4 F30 regional one:​
Hekotat Hekotat If you find a good one let me know as well...

This relates to this weeks decision on the part of Mrs. Haus Mrs. Haus . The only actual new car I've ever purchased was the 2013 Ford Escape which is her daily driver. It's coming up on 13 years old now. I had fully accepted that it was time to probably shop for her a CPO replacement. I had started shopping. Then she comes to me with the statement that she still loves her car (only has 63k miles on it), but needs a backup camera, new tires, and wants wireless Android Auto, and some scratches small door dings (from 13 years of Dallas parking lots) and such taken care of.

Both I, and my bank account, love my wife.

First stop yesterday was getting a new radio/head unit dropped in. Went with a Sony XAV-AX4000, plus some black magic module to attach it to the cars onboard computer. It came supporting a backup camera, and wireless Android Auto, so I figured it took care of the need. But I was quite pleasantly surprised. Her car had idiot lights for "you have low tire, but I'm not telling you which" and limited gauges. This stereo was suddenly able to display full pressure on each tire with warning thresholds. It had a full set of gauges digital in it (RPM, oil, the whole 9 yards and would even clock you 0-60 for you). On top of that her car now has digital climate controls on screen. The only thing it didn't support was that the backup camera guide lines in my Caddy turn when turn the wheel and these don't. But I wasn't expecting that as it involves a whole set of steering sensors. Apparently the thing would even support proximity sensors for backup and collision detection if the car had them installed (so now I'm looking at aftermarket sensor packages that might work).

$1500 well spent. (had a local Sound/audio place install it all).

Next stop today is new tires. And to pick up rubbing/polishing/wax compounds to see about taking care of the scratches myself, but there's a small door ding I don't have the dentless repair kit to handle myself. Total project cost on this will be under $3000 as opposed to a CPO Lexus compact SUV which was what we were narrowing in on. I already did one of those "headlight polishing" kits to un-yellow and defog the headlamp lenses.
 
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This relates to this weeks decision on the part of Mrs. Haus Mrs. Haus . The only actual new car I've ever purchased was the 2013 Ford Escape which is her daily driver. It's coming up on 13 years old now. I had fully accepted that it was time to probably shop for her a CPO replacement. I had started shopping. Then she comes to me with the statement that she still loves her car (only has 63k miles on it), but needs a backup camera, new tires, and wants wireless Android Auto, and some scratches small door dings (from 13 years of Dallas parking lots) and such taken care of.

Both I, and my bank account, love my wife.

First stop yesterday was getting a new radio/head unit dropped in. Went with a Sony XAV-AX4000, plus some black magic module to attach it to the cars onboard computer. It came supporting a backup camera, and wireless Android Auto, so I figured it took care of the need. But I was quite pleasantly surprised. Her car had idiot lights for "you have low tire, but I'm not telling you which" and limited gauges. This stereo was suddenly able to display full pressure on each tire with warning thresholds. It had a full set of gauges digital in it (RPM, oil, the whole 9 yards and would even clock you 0-60 for you). On top of that her car now has digital climate controls on screen. The only thing it didn't support was that the backup camera guide lines in my Caddy turn when turn the wheel and these don't. But I wasn't expecting that as it involves a whole set of steering sensors. Apparently the thing would even support proximity sensors for backup and collision detection if the car had them installed (so now I'm looking at aftermarket sensor packages that might work).

$1500 well spent. (had a local Sound/audio place install it all).

Next stop today is new tires. And to pick up rubbing/polishing/wax compounds to see about taking care of the scratches myself, but there's a small door ding I don't have the dentless repair kit to handle myself. Total project cost on this will be under $3000 as opposed to a CPO Lexus compact SUV which was what we were narrowing in on. I already did one of those "headlight polishing" kits to un-yellow and defog the headlamp lenses.

I've had to stop looking for a bit, too many unexpected bills arose the last few months and I just spent too much money this year on top of that.

I did a deep clean on the car today and I can now see where the dealership did a really half-ass job on the touch spots to make the car look flawless. It looked good when I bought it but more and more piece of it are starting to become noticeable and falling off around the car. I've never been fucked by a dealership like this and I'm quite disappointed.
 

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I've had to stop looking for a bit, too many unexpected bills arose the last few months and I just spent too much money this year on top of that.

I did a deep clean on the car today and I can now see where the dealership did a really half-ass job on the touch spots to make the car look flawless. It looked good when I bought it but more and more piece of it are starting to become noticeable and falling off around the car. I've never been fucked by a dealership like this and I'm quite disappointed.
I'm not sure I'd bring my car to the dealership for body work unless they have a full and busy body shop. Bring it to people that do the work every day.
 
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I've had to stop looking for a bit, too many unexpected bills arose the last few months and I just spent too much money this year on top of that.

I did a deep clean on the car today and I can now see where the dealership did a really half-ass job on the touch spots to make the car look flawless. It looked good when I bought it but more and more piece of it are starting to become noticeable and falling off around the car. I've never been fucked by a dealership like this and I'm quite disappointed.
Dallas area, right?
 

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This relates to this weeks decision on the part of Mrs. Haus Mrs. Haus . The only actual new car I've ever purchased was the 2013 Ford Escape which is her daily driver. It's coming up on 13 years old now. I had fully accepted that it was time to probably shop for her a CPO replacement. I had started shopping. Then she comes to me with the statement that she still loves her car (only has 63k miles on it), but needs a backup camera, new tires, and wants wireless Android Auto, and some scratches small door dings (from 13 years of Dallas parking lots) and such taken care of.

Both I, and my bank account, love my wife.

First stop yesterday was getting a new radio/head unit dropped in. Went with a Sony XAV-AX4000, plus some black magic module to attach it to the cars onboard computer. It came supporting a backup camera, and wireless Android Auto, so I figured it took care of the need. But I was quite pleasantly surprised. Her car had idiot lights for "you have low tire, but I'm not telling you which" and limited gauges. This stereo was suddenly able to display full pressure on each tire with warning thresholds. It had a full set of gauges digital in it (RPM, oil, the whole 9 yards and would even clock you 0-60 for you). On top of that her car now has digital climate controls on screen. The only thing it didn't support was that the backup camera guide lines in my Caddy turn when turn the wheel and these don't. But I wasn't expecting that as it involves a whole set of steering sensors. Apparently the thing would even support proximity sensors for backup and collision detection if the car had them installed (so now I'm looking at aftermarket sensor packages that might work).

$1500 well spent. (had a local Sound/audio place install it all).

Next stop today is new tires. And to pick up rubbing/polishing/wax compounds to see about taking care of the scratches myself, but there's a small door ding I don't have the dentless repair kit to handle myself. Total project cost on this will be under $3000 as opposed to a CPO Lexus compact SUV which was what we were narrowing in on. I already did one of those "headlight polishing" kits to un-yellow and defog the headlamp lenses.
While I have never done dent pulling, you melt and cast metal, so I assume you are fairly handy. Maybe search through AutogeekOnline.net or YouTube videos on how to pull small dents and do it yourself. I have had the whole front clip off my car before and while not exactly easy, it's not all that hard either, if that's what it takes (it shouldn't).

As for scratch and chip repair, as far as I know Dr. Colorchip is still king in the coverup and paint match department. Which is to say that you wont be able to see the chips at 5 foot+ away and often closer, unless you get right up on it with the light at the right angles. I did a full claybar, Dr. Colorchip, then a ceramic coat finish and it came out great on my car. For a daily driver, I don't think a full body shop chip filler/repair is worth it.
 
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While I have never done dent pulling, you melt and cast metal, so I assume you are fairly handy. Maybe search through AutogeekOnline.net or YouTube videos on how to pull small dents and do it yourself. I have had the whole front clip off my car before and while not exactly easy, it's not all that hard either, if that's what it takes (it shouldn't).

As for scratch and chip repair, as far as I know Dr. Colorchip is still king in the coverup and paint match department. Which is to say that you wont be able to see the chips at 5 foot+ away and often closer, unless you get right up on it with the light at the right angles. I did a full claybar, Dr. Colorchip, then a ceramic coat finish and it came out great on my car. For a daily driver, I don't think a full body shop chip filler/repair is worth it.
Yeah, I've already ordered a paintless dent pulling kit (the glue gun and puller style) and it looks pretty basic to do. That's one ding she has on her drivers door. As mentioned I have all the gear already to do cut, buff, and polish for any surface scratching.

The more complicated part is on the rear passenger corner where someone apparently came a WEE BIT too close parking next to her one day....
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The big corner panel there (left side) is plastic and costs $50 (already ordered, but I will have to get painted to match). The wheel trim was a $40 piece (also ordered). The one bugger will be that one little corner spot where it got down to the metal on the quarter-panel. I can swap the two plastic parts out, but one will have to be painted which I might price around some of the local shops since I'm in NW Dallas where there are several. Might try to get a nice color matched paint and see about cut/paint/clearcoat/buff/polish on that one little spot when I have the plastic parts off for replacement.
 

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I think you guys may have misunderstood me. I bought the car used, as-is from a dealership. It looked flawless when I did a slow scan inspect before purchasing. However, over time more and more things are appearing. cracks in bumpers, one big gouge, large chips everywhere. Today was the first time I was able to get a really good look at it.
 

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Yeah, I've already ordered a paintless dent pulling kit (the glue gun and puller style) and it looks pretty basic to do. That's one ding she has on her drivers door. As mentioned I have all the gear already to do cut, buff, and polish for any surface scratching.

The more complicated part is on the rear passenger corner where someone apparently came a WEE BIT too close parking next to her one day....
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The big corner panel there (left side) is plastic and costs $50 (already ordered, but I will have to get painted to match). The wheel trim was a $40 piece (also ordered). The one bugger will be that one little corner spot where it got down to the metal on the quarter-panel. I can swap the two plastic parts out, but one will have to be painted which I might price around some of the local shops since I'm in NW Dallas where there are several. Might try to get a nice color matched paint and see about cut/paint/clearcoat/buff/polish on that one little spot when I have the plastic parts off for replacement.
Ouch, that looks a bit rough on the paint, and yeah, since you are ordering a new panel there is no getting around going to a body shop.

When I had my front bumper replaced at Stewart's they used a laser spectrometer (or some laser color matching tool) to get a perfect match and I assume most good shops will be using the same thing. With needing to get the one panel professionally painted, ask for an extra little bottle of paint to use on touch ups (chips) or ask them to dump any extra paint in a pint for you to take home.
 

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This relates to this weeks decision on the part of Mrs. Haus Mrs. Haus . The only actual new car I've ever purchased was the 2013 Ford Escape which is her daily driver. It's coming up on 13 years old now. I had fully accepted that it was time to probably shop for her a CPO replacement. I had started shopping. Then she comes to me with the statement that she still loves her car (only has 63k miles on it), but needs a backup camera, new tires, and wants wireless Android Auto, and some scratches small door dings (from 13 years of Dallas parking lots) and such taken care of.

Both I, and my bank account, love my wife.

First stop yesterday was getting a new radio/head unit dropped in. Went with a Sony XAV-AX4000, plus some black magic module to attach it to the cars onboard computer. It came supporting a backup camera, and wireless Android Auto, so I figured it took care of the need. But I was quite pleasantly surprised. Her car had idiot lights for "you have low tire, but I'm not telling you which" and limited gauges. This stereo was suddenly able to display full pressure on each tire with warning thresholds. It had a full set of gauges digital in it (RPM, oil, the whole 9 yards and would even clock you 0-60 for you). On top of that her car now has digital climate controls on screen. The only thing it didn't support was that the backup camera guide lines in my Caddy turn when turn the wheel and these don't. But I wasn't expecting that as it involves a whole set of steering sensors. Apparently the thing would even support proximity sensors for backup and collision detection if the car had them installed (so now I'm looking at aftermarket sensor packages that might work).

$1500 well spent. (had a local Sound/audio place install it all).

Next stop today is new tires. And to pick up rubbing/polishing/wax compounds to see about taking care of the scratches myself, but there's a small door ding I don't have the dentless repair kit to handle myself. Total project cost on this will be under $3000 as opposed to a CPO Lexus compact SUV which was what we were narrowing in on. I already did one of those "headlight polishing" kits to un-yellow and defog the headlamp lenses.
The dynamic guidelines just use the vehicle's steering angle sensor. Pretty sure that vintage of Escape should have that since you need it for vehicle dynamic control - it needs to know if you happen to be turning so it doesn't think wheels are slipping from the differential in wheel speeds (among other things).

Based on the stuff you're seeing, whatever black box hardware you got is already sniffing the CAN bus, you wouldn't need any other special devices installed. I guess maybe whatever one you got just isn't translating that signal for your aftermarket head unit - I'd only assume to upsell. It's kind of funny, it's an extremely trivial signal to find and translate, then all you need is to calculate the steering gear ratio and the wheelbase. Surprised it wouldn't be on the cheapest ones.
 

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The dynamic guidelines just use the vehicle's steering angle sensor. Pretty sure that vintage of Escape should have that since you need it for vehicle dynamic control - it needs to know if you happen to be turning so it doesn't think wheels are slipping from the differential in wheel speeds (among other things).

Based on the stuff you're seeing, whatever black box hardware you got is already sniffing the CAN bus, you wouldn't need any other special devices installed. I guess maybe whatever one you got just isn't translating that signal for your aftermarket head unit - I'd only assume to upsell. It's kind of funny, it's an extremely trivial signal to find and translate, then all you need is to calculate the steering gear ratio and the wheelbase. Surprised it wouldn't be on the cheapest ones.
Yeah, the "black magic box" is called a Maestro box. I was suspect of it and if I really needed it, but seeing what it's delivering I'm definitely flipped on that opinion.

This was the first year for this iteration of the Escape and they had the standard trims which we got one of, and the "Titanium" trim, which was almost $10k more, so we skipped. That was the trip with the integrated backup camera (back before this was a standard thing) and all the bells and whistles (like the hands free hatchback). But I'm still researching, hoping i can just find some "unused" ports and plus in sensors as needed.