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Batman was grim and moody because 1989 Batman and Frank Miller. after 30 years, its ok to make him lighten up a little.
Why? If I want a light and fun billionaire playboy who makes gadgets and fights super villains I can watch Iron Man. Batman is at his best when he is dark and broody imho.
Just make it a good movie (The Dark Knight for example)
 

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Yeah, I don't give a shit if Batman is grimdark or silly adam west style or anything in between. Just make it interesting and not suck.
 

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Why? If I want a light and fun billionaire playboy who makes gadgets and fights super villains I can watch Iron Man. Batman is at his best when he is dark and broody imho.
Just make it a good movie (The Dark Knight for example)
because it makes him a shitty team mate. he doesnt work well with others, then it makes it unbelievable that anyone or justice league would want to work with him.

grimdark only works in his solo films.
 
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Batman was grim and moody because 1989 Batman and Frank Miller. after 30 years, its ok to make him lighten up a little.
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because it makes him a shitty team mate. he doesnt work well with others, then it makes it unbelievable that anyone or justice league would want to work with him.

grimdark only works in his solo films.

I dont want him to have teammates. Justice League as a concept is 100% faggotry
 
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Why? If I want a light and fun billionaire playboy who makes gadgets and fights super villains I can watch Iron Man. Batman is at his best when he is dark and broody imho.
Just make it a good movie (The Dark Knight for example)

Exactly.
 
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There has to be some middle ground between moody asshole and doing the "Batusi". The version of Bruce Wayne Batman in the Flashpoint animated movie seemed fine. Better than the Thomas Wayne version in that same film.

Why shouldnt there be ONE super hero who is basically a loner with a fucked up past who just wants to take his vengeance out on criminals?

I dont want a Batman who is part of JL, I dont even want Robin. I just want a Batman who lives in gothic Gotham (ala Keaton's Batman) or Art Deco Gotham (ala TAS) and beats the shit out of criminals on his own without any other Justice League faggots coming through town
 
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Why shouldnt there be ONE super hero who is basically a loner with a fucked up past who just wants to take his vengeance out on criminals?

I dont want a Batman who is part of JL, I dont even want Robin. I just want a Batman who lives in gothic Gotham (ala Keaton's Batman) or Art Deco Gotham (ala TAS) and beats the shit out of criminals on his own without any other Justice League faggots coming through town
At this point as I said earlier I don't give a shit where on the campy to grimdark spectrum he falls, I just want an actual movie that doesn't suck.
 

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At this point as I said earlier I don't give a shit where on the campy to grimdark spectrum he falls, I just want an actual movie that doesn't suck.
As much as I loved watching the Adam West batman show when I was growing up, thats not what I am wanting from Bats or DC. DC is fine with the grim dark setting, we have Marvel for the light and breezy.
 

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If they would just nut up and do a live-action TV series of The Long Halloween series I can die happy.
 
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long halloween comes out as a 2 part animated series this summer and fall, might be best going to get.
 
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Why shouldnt there be ONE super hero who is basically a loner with a fucked up past who just wants to take his vengeance out on criminals?

I dont want a Batman who is part of JL, I dont even want Robin. I just want a Batman who lives in gothic Gotham (ala Keaton's Batman) or Art Deco Gotham (ala TAS) and beats the shit out of criminals on his own without any other Justice League faggots coming through town

I'm with you on his inclusion in JL. Everyone else has powers and he, despite being the peak of humanity in every way, just looks like Black Widow in Avengers.

They constantly have to write tenuous ways he can face off against villains like Darkseid and not end up looking either inconsequential or a smear on the ground.

He's best fighting all the variety of colourful villains Gotham has to offer. Yeah, some of his enemies have powers but they're not Doomsday or Braniac level.
 
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I dunno what the problem is. No one really cares about BW and arrowboy being able to keep up in MCU against demigod robots or any of the other insanely powerful villians.
 

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I dunno what the problem is. No one really cares about BW and arrowboy being able to keep up in MCU against demigod robots or any of the other insanely powerful villians.
Thats why they only made a bw film after they killed her off, nobody cares about arrowboy, especially since natasha died to save him. Those guys are unimportant to the avengers. At least natasha helped out early on and was working intelligence. Look. I wouldnt want to put Batman in the JL or DCEU. But he`s there now. Either you have to write him out of it or you need to change Batman, just a little bit. You can give him a Robin as a partner or just hook him up to Selena to make him more friendly to his allies.
 
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I dunno what the problem is. No one really cares about BW and arrowboy being able to keep up in MCU against demigod robots or any of the other insanely powerful villians.

theyre not cornerstone characters, but thats another good point. Marvel does a much better job of keeping superheroes of vastly differing power levels from tangling under each other's feet.

batman and superman are cornerstone characters running JL is like Daredevil and captain marvel teaming up to run the avengers, its nonsense that destroy all sense of immersion. the ridiculously contrived ways they construct for Batman to fight Superman, Darkseid or anyone else grossly overpowered destroys that immersion even more.
 
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Margot Robbie, Christina Hodson Reteam for New 'Pirates of the Caribbean' Movie for Disney (Exclusive) ... Margot Robbie is setting sail with help from her Birds of Prey writer Christina Hodson. Hodson has been tapped to write a new, female-fronted Pirates of the Caribbean for Disney, with Robbie attached to star.

Old announcement from summer 2020, but didn't think it was real. lol they're going forward with it.

Birds of Prey writer + a unproven box office draw in Margot Robbie to helm a mega franchise...

What could go wrong.

(DC related; Birds writer + the actress is DC so figured I'd drop it here)
 
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Marvel does a much better job of keeping superheroes of vastly differing power levels from tangling under each other's feet.
IWho got killed in AoU? The guy with super speed or the guy whose only ability is shooting a bow and arrow?

its nonsense that destroy all sense of immersion.
Kind of like how Captain America beats the absolute shit out of people and nary a bruise or broken bone on them?

MCU movies are filled with just as many hilariously illogical concepts or scenes as DC's. Difference is MCU movies are generally very well put together so its easy to look past that.