World of Warcraft: Current Year

Caeden said:

Granted, I've still got the new car smell, but my first 45 levels in FFXIV has been a breath of fresh air compared to BFA and the design of FFXIV is firmly stuck in this weird mix of Vanilla fetching shit and legion class stories that can be a mess at times. Yet...its fun.

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Same. The gameplay, and the game in general, doesn’t have that same level of polish but it’s just fun.

daaaaaamnnn

That's the end of speculation in this thread. The sweat is real.

The influencers cracked Blizzard's eggs. Consequences were never the same.

Neranja said:

And why do you think that is, and what would be the solution? That Blizzard should discourage players from putting "pro gamers" on a pedestal to worship? End the "esporting" of the game with world first races and MDI?

I logged in yesterday to my prot warrior to maybe level to 60 for the upcoming patch. What greeted me in LFG was a Plaguefall group past the first boss without tank and healer. When asked what happened, they said the tank instantly left after joining the dungeon, and then berated me that surely I know that the first boss is skippable.

The sheer amount of entitlement to your services as a tank, combined with the passive-aggressiveness made me appreciate the FFXIV community even more.

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Wow culture is this:
The tank is the defacto group leader, so after the first month of the Xpac, it is generally seen as rude for a person to queue as a tank for level 60 content, if they have never been in the zone before. Everyone has a dps spec, and you are expected to queue as dps, until you at least know where you are going. Some people (wrongly) apply this to normal mode leveling.

Combine that with the general frustration over the xpac and a shrinking player base, and you are probably going to run into an abnormally high amount of douche behavior, at this point. The vast majority of people are looking to speed run through the leveling to get to what ever they want to see in the end game.

Furthermore, Plaguefall has a bad reputation with taking a long time (from what I remember), and not being noob friendly. I imagine many people just quit out and go back to questing, if they get it. The three dudebros you met probably wanted something from that zone.

For Blizzard to give advertising to Endwalker means the social media metrics must be tremendously loud on FFXIV.

With regard to the exposure of FFXIV and Endwalker-- the survey could also be Activision's way of checking their internal trackers, data comparison.

This survey may have been the only way to affirm data they have. This will give Blizzard a better idea of how much social media has spread FFXIV, and if it's any significance to them.

If significant enough it just means borrowing a few features from Endwalker for the next expac. Probably cosmetics as mentioned a few pages earlier in this thread.

Neranja said:

Yeah, because that worked so really, REALLY well with PoTD/HoH and Torghast. "Here's some side content in our game not tied to player power or story for you to enjoy" - "Let's copy that and make it mandatory to craft legendaries!"

Next FFXIV expansion is going to have an Animal Crossing island, and WoW already did something like that in MoP. Maybe they'll bring it back?

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That's the difference between WoW and FFXIV : WoW devs will do EVERYTHING in their power to make you go through the content they created repeatedly. Meanwhile, FFXIV devs are like "Here's a new system/type of content, do it if you'd like". They make different and varied types of content targeting various types of players and they make it purely optional.

Neranja said:

And why do you think that is, and what would be the solution? That Blizzard should discourage players from putting "pro gamers" on a pedestal to worship? End the "esporting" of the game with world first races and MDI?

I logged in yesterday to my prot warrior to maybe level to 60 for the upcoming patch. What greeted me in LFG was a Plaguefall group past the first boss without tank and healer. When asked what happened, they said the tank instantly left after joining the dungeon, and then berated me that surely I know that the first boss is skippable.

The sheer amount of entitlement to your services as a tank, combined with the passive-aggressiveness made me appreciate the FFXIV community even more.

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I mean, they could ban idiots who promote hate speech in chat. Stuff like that has seemed to work in the FF14 community.

Is going to be funny in 2 months to see all the WoW refugees flee back. I love FF14 but the end game of FF14 is pretty easy and there is less to do at the end of the game unless you are an achievement hunter.

Gotta love the same suspects spamming Trade and other channels in the city with garbage. A lot of them get praise from the community or are revered as folk figures in terms of WoW "heroes". Every major server has a band of these guys.

I don't know if a League of Legends style crackdown on hate speech and toxicity would leave Blizzard with any players at this point. They let it balloon out of control.

Here Ashes of Creations starting kids with experience at 85k. Jesus christ no wonder actiblizz can't attract anyone.

Plus as they point out, that is 40k in SoCal, which probably makes it closer to 30k or less if you adjust for cost of living. They probably got away with it because "It's Blizzard!".