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Holy shit how many of you were you ever in mirc with furor? Dude was 20 something going on 12 and acted every bit of a complete piece of shit with the "Im the God of Everquest" attitude. Everything in that statement fits.
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Nirgon

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What's he gonna do now other than make tardo games for Timmy? Oh how he used to mock Timmy.
 

Zindan

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Preach's 2 cents

Him and Asmon seem like such "react andy's" about this, they instantly believe what is told to them about some other guy being a douche to women. This lawsuit screams SJW bullshit and no one should support it happening at all. I am 100% sure Blizz is how it is now (shitty game studio for the most part) due to caving into SJW politics.
 
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Zindan

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You know everyone in charge or in some management or game design role there thinks they got there because they are awesome game designers, not because the culture there is broken. They live in some weird alternate reality over there. It is like me standing next to Stephen King automatically makes me a wealthy, prolific author. They think they are rocks stars, but all they are is a garage band making noise that no one wants to hear.

I totally buy into the lazy frat boy culture accusation because I have seen it a few times myself.

The lack of game design leadership has been a problem for a long time, and it isn't going to change until they get rid of Ion and his cadre of yes men. No shock that they are sitting in their offices playing games instead of making them. EQ2 ran out of talent and had interns doing work without direction. The quality of content is exactly like what we got in BFA and this last expac. An intern did the loot, and she used one template for all the classes and IIRC, the only thing that changed were the armor values. In that light, I can believe that peons at Blizz are doing their bosses jobs.

The people in charge of Blizz need to suck it up and purge all the idiots out of that company...men and women alike. Find the best game designers and hire them.
This will NEVER FUCKING happen. Blizz will have to hire based on race / gender, they will have to promote based on race / gender.
 
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Secrets

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lol people calling to remove every quest he's done etc.

People are so fucking stupid

is he a piece of shit? yeah. Does that invalidate all the work he's ever done? Fuck no, you fucking mongoloids.

Whole board here pretty much calls people trannies, faggots, and thinks women belong in the kitchen, yet they'd never say that to an actual woman, trans person, or Millie offline.

BoozeCube, you should actually read my posts, I lace great funnies into them so you can tolerate them.
 
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BoozeCube

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Whole board here pretty much calls people trannies, faggots, and thinks women belong in the kitchen, yet they'd never say that to an actual woman, trans person, or Millie offline.
Oh gee I wonder why. Shut up faggot go post on reddit.

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Thinking about the testimony of you folks who were with Alex at Blizzcon.. some food for thought:

You're a dude, he's a dude. He knows you're a customer where if you tread on his workspace, he could lose his job.
Much like Bill Cosby, he's not gonna roofie your ugly ass and fuck you. He's gonna be a 'bro' with you and talk about his wife and kids.

He's not going to do shady shit with you on TV. He's not gonna record a sitcom and grab women's asses on film, or fornicate with women in public.

If he's truly a predator, he's going to do that shit where you, a random outsider, cannot see it. And he's gonna do it when none of his coworkers that have a voice see it.

Laziness is another issue entirely. The games industry is full of these types of devs. They'll just rely on the community manager or human resources to resolve issues that are public facing. The community manager will make a big deflecting answer as to why they aren't 'getting x feature done in time', meanwhile he's grabbing his female coworker's ass and raiding on Final Fantasy XIV when he should be working on the new raid tier.

That's really just because big companies over-hire for what would maybe take 2-20 hires, and then hire 20-200 people. It's akin to throwing hardware at a software bug because your top talent is trying to get a nuke in Call of Duty: Warzone instead of fix a crippling memory leak.

He's the only engineer in the house that knows what the solution is, and he's having an orgy in his suite with 3 young subordinates.

So they'll hire 20 clowns for that circus at low wages, tell them to fix the bug, and they won't even know where to start - meanwhile, your top talent dude's over here getting his 17th Cloak of Flames from Nagafen in his GDKP guild while his 3rd wife comes to work and sucks him off in his suite.

These issues normally come from the top - 9-5'ers who don't want to be there, were hired in that 20-person spree, and are draining the cow of potential profits because of the other guy who works '7 days a week' but 4 of those days are spent farming Idol of the Underking in The Hole on Phinigel with his 18-box crew.

It sounds unbelievable from the outside, but if you've worked in any industry that interacts directly with programmers, you know exactly what I mean. It's like pulling teeth to get people to do shit because they feel they're better than their jobs. I can't say I was exempt from that. I fell into that trap and that's why I am mentioning it. You get complacent once you're in a 'safety blanket' and people have little accountability over you because you don't have someone that understands what you do, besides your 3-7 coworkers at your skill level, and they're 'in' on it.

It's not 'bro' culture. It's lazy culture.

Gender & sexual shit has nothing to do with the deep-seeded core issue here. The issue is with the lack of people who treat their job seriously and exist only for a paycheck that are meshing with the Unix wizard-looking motherfuckers who take month-long vacations at the beginning of a development cycle. If lazy employees are able to continue being lazy and get complacent with their lack of crackdown, and do things they 'shouldn't do at work' when there is work readily available to be done, you won't have to crunch, you won't have to defend your company against expensive suits, and maybe your product won't be shit as a result.

The moment someone is burned out at a company, I think it's HR's responsibility to identify that and approach them about paying them severance and, more importantly, *finding a new job elsewhere with the same pay they have there*.

I think a lot of creative minds get bored working on the same product for 15 years and just start doing shady shit they can get away with due to seniority. I remember reading reviews on Glassdoor from Daybreak where "Ku Klux Klan" was a wifi name there and the password was 'n-word' or something ridiculous, and I'm inclined to believe it.

Because I know what I felt in those positions, and leaving a company requires you to admit 'well, maybe I shouldn't abuse my position of power over these people, admit I don't want to do this for the rest of forever, and move on', and it takes an exceptional mind to actually act on that.

I knew this would turn into a Secrets rant about team sizes, but it occurs to me that there is another benefit to keeping your team size smaller than 14 people. You're not beholden to any diversity hiring laws and can just hire a bunch of dudes and hang out eating pizza and programming on CRT monitors like the good old days.
 
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Secrets

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Oh gee I wonder why.

Because you, like everyone else including me on the forum, don't get out and socialize much beyond what's needed so we use this forum as a medium to express our limited view of the world, and use edgy buzzwords to make our point seem more important?

That's kind of the foundation on which early internet forums were founded on.
 
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Secrets

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I knew this would turn into a Secrets rant about team sizes, but it occurs to me that there is another benefit to keeping your team size smaller than 14 people. You're not beholden to any diversity hiring laws and can just hire a bunch of white dudes and hang out eating pizza and programming on CRT monitors like the good old days.

Finally, someone who gets it. If you want to invite chicks in, and have massive orgies in your office + pizza parties, just pick you and your best people to make a game and don't sell it out to investors or VC firms and be selective about who you hire. Issue solved.

Likewise, if you want to be inclusive and promote diversity, and the challenges that come with integrating that stuff into your business there exists options for you. We live in a free country, so you have the power to do that. If you see your company going down that road, you likewise can say 'fuck y'all im going home'.

That freedom to do whatever the fuck you want with your business with your friends is why our country exists, and why I only really eat food from local or regional small businesses or make my own fucking food.
It's why I support all the Blizzard 2.0 branchoffs like Morheim splitting off from the company. They couldn't have had zero knowledge about this suit, they were doing what they thought would protect themselves and their family, when people like Kotick and Brack just raked in money, thinking this wouldn't ever be an issue.

The smart people made the decision to abandon ship. The diverse hires got fucked, in some cases literally, by company vets who sold out to the stock market and gambled with their own futures. I have zero sympathy for those named in the suit.
 
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Finally, someone who gets it. If you want to invite chicks in, and have massive orgies in your office + pizza parties, just pick you and your best people to make a game and don't sell it out to investors or VC firms and be selective about who you hire. Issue solved.

Likewise, if you want to be inclusive and promote diversity, and the challenges that come with integrating that stuff into your business there exists options for you. We live in a free country, so you have the power to do that. If you see your company going down that road, you likewise can say 'fuck y'all im going home'.

That freedom to do whatever the fuck you want with your business with your friends is why our country exists, and why I only really eat food from local or regional small businesses or make my own fucking food.
It's why I support all the Blizzard 2.0 branchoffs like Morheim splitting off from the company. They couldn't have had zero knowledge about this suit, they were doing what they thought would protect themselves and their family, when people like Kotick and Brack just raked in money, thinking this wouldn't ever be an issue.

The smart people made the decision to abandon ship. The diverse hires got fucked, in some cases literally, by company vets who sold out to the stock market and gambled with their own futures. I have zero sympathy for those named in the suit.

You are almost as bad as Xeq with these made up bullshit stories.
 
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Bro can you shut the fuck up with this LARP bullshit. I don't want to read 15 paragraphs from some dude who hasn't touched grass in 10 years.
 
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Because you, like everyone else including me on the forum, don't get out and socialize much beyond what's needed so we use this forum as a medium to express our limited view of the world, and use edgy buzzwords to make our point seem more important?

That's kind of the foundation on which early internet forums were founded on.
don't lump me in with your ass
 
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Secrets

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You are almost as bad as Xeq with these made up bullshit stories.

Morheim actually split off of the company.
I've bought Wawa or made my own food for the last 2 weeks.
Massive diverse hires have happened at Actiblizz. See the twitter handles linked earlier in the thread.
Smart people moved on to companies like Riot instead of clinging onto a future.
Blizzard has 10 defendants in the lawsuit (Does).
J Allen Brack and Kotick were aware of this behavior and the only thing left to prove is if they did nothing about it.

These are facts. They aren't stories. And the evidence is in this thread, and unproven information is in the lawsuit itself.
 
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jooka

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This isn't unique to Activision/Blizzard, this has happened to all the big companies(google, apple, facebook etc etc) I think the unique thing is Activision clearly failed to react to repeated warnings of this type of activity. Imagine Alex' ass is starting to pucker up for lawsuits coming his way
 
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This is why you never dip the pen in the company ink boys!
 
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jooka

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I'm talking about people he personally harassed and/or took advantage of personally suing him, not the government.
 
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