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World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Runnen
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Does a bear shit in the woods despite bears only dropping their ass 15% of the time for your quest?
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Flobee
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This is 100% WoW2. The name Forever and giving themselves room to retcon everything makes that pretty clear
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Kirun
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I agree with whoever said WoW: Forever will probably have a 30-60 day lifespan before the hype starts to die down/disappear. That's simply the cycle modern gaming has settled into.
This is all the industry is now: seasons, soft resets, classic servers, limited-time MTX designed around FOMO, battle passes, and other systems built around repeatedly bringing players back for another short burst of engagement and spending. It's increasingly being built for less long-term games and more for a series of carefully timed revenue spikes. Get an initial influx of players and money, ride it for 30-60 days, then start preparing the next content or monetization hook 3-12 months down the road.
And given how glacially slow Blizzard tends to move, there's essentially zero chance they'll have an "updated" TBC ready in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe. If the cycle follows the usual pattern, the sequence is pretty predictable: launch a nostalgia-fueled product for millennial manchildren who can't let go, capitalize on the initial hype and the influence of people like Asmongold, watch the playerbase and revenue inevitably decline, endure months of YouTube videos about how Blizzard is "ruining WoW again", and then announce "TBC Redux!" a year or two later when they need another shot of nostalgia-driven revenue.
Then the whole thing starts over - "This time it'll be different!" "WoW: Forever TBC is the future of Blizzard!". And we'll all apparently be shocked when it turns out to be the exact same cycle again..
This is all the industry is now: seasons, soft resets, classic servers, limited-time MTX designed around FOMO, battle passes, and other systems built around repeatedly bringing players back for another short burst of engagement and spending. It's increasingly being built for less long-term games and more for a series of carefully timed revenue spikes. Get an initial influx of players and money, ride it for 30-60 days, then start preparing the next content or monetization hook 3-12 months down the road.
And given how glacially slow Blizzard tends to move, there's essentially zero chance they'll have an "updated" TBC ready in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe. If the cycle follows the usual pattern, the sequence is pretty predictable: launch a nostalgia-fueled product for millennial manchildren who can't let go, capitalize on the initial hype and the influence of people like Asmongold, watch the playerbase and revenue inevitably decline, endure months of YouTube videos about how Blizzard is "ruining WoW again", and then announce "TBC Redux!" a year or two later when they need another shot of nostalgia-driven revenue.
Then the whole thing starts over - "This time it'll be different!" "WoW: Forever TBC is the future of Blizzard!". And we'll all apparently be shocked when it turns out to be the exact same cycle again..
TJT
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They have something cooking for Starcraft that will take nearly 4 years to complete. There's been hints that it is really big and ambitious.
Runnen
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And we'll all apparently be shocked when it turns out to be the exact same cycle again..
This thread reads a lot like the pre-release Vanguard thread, except the people there hadn't already played Vanguard 20+ years ago.
TJT
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Oh the fun police are here again.I agree with whoever said WoW: Forever will probably have a 30-60 day lifespan before the hype starts to die down/disappear. That's simply the cycle modern gaming has settled into.
This is all the industry is now: seasons, soft resets, classic servers, limited-time MTX designed around FOMO, battle passes, and other systems built around repeatedly bringing players back for another short burst of engagement and spending. It's increasingly being built for less long-term games and more for a series of carefully timed revenue spikes. Get an initial influx of players and money, ride it for 30-60 days, then start preparing the next content or monetization hook 3-12 months down the road.
And given how glacially slow Blizzard tends to move, there's essentially zero chance they'll have an "updated" TBC ready in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe. If the cycle follows the usual pattern, the sequence is pretty predictable: launch a nostalgia-fueled product for millennial manchildren who can't let go, capitalize on the initial hype and the influence of people like Asmongold, watch the playerbase and revenue inevitably decline, endure months of YouTube videos about how Blizzard is "ruining WoW again", and then announce "TBC Redux!" a year or two later when they need another shot of nostalgia-driven revenue.
Then the whole thing starts over - "This time it'll be different!" "WoW: Forever TBC is the future of Blizzard!". And we'll all apparently be shocked when it turns out to be the exact same cycle again..
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M Power
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I think the whole point of WoW Forever is that there never will be a TBC expansion (thank God).And given how glacially slow Blizzard tends to move, there's essentially zero chance they'll have an "updated" TBC ready in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe.
Then the whole thing starts over - "This time it'll be different!" "WoW: Forever TBC is the future of Blizzard!". And we'll all apparently be shocked when it turns out to be the exact same cycle again..
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TJT
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None of these arguments has any basis in reality. Turtle WoW had a robust population for YEARS despite only adding their college project level additions. Many of them were good and innovative but they were all amateur productions.
Ascension had a robust population for years. Even in their classic realms and these versions changed less than we're seeing here.
Doomers gonna Doom.
Ascension had a robust population for years. Even in their classic realms and these versions changed less than we're seeing here.
Doomers gonna Doom.
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Daezuel
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If this was f2p with microtransactions that killed off the gold farmers I'd be more likely to play. As it is I'm not sure I want to bother paying 2 subs for a game I probably won't have time to regularly play.
The mega server shit seems like a super bad idea at this point watching the streamer shenanigans.
Still, the pull is strong.
The mega server shit seems like a super bad idea at this point watching the streamer shenanigans.
Still, the pull is strong.
Runnen
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Correct, which is why I said this idealized untouched WoW isn't going to last. You're already seeing it with the $30 cloud elves, cosmetic-only items being added to Forever. They're adding transmogrification to sell you cosmetic items, and soon they'll probably make a Forever version of housing so they can sell you "classic-looking" decor items.
There's a reason Retail became something you despise.
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Uriel
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I see people mentioning horizontal content a lot, but the game will still be vertical.
From https://www.mmorpg.com/interviews/b...progression-and-more-with-blizzard-2000138932 :
"You know, at the end of the day, World of Warcraft is a vertical progression game, and that's part of the power fantasy, and we're never really going to take that away. But I think having a little bit more nominal power gains per step-up will help."
From https://www.mmorpg.com/interviews/b...progression-and-more-with-blizzard-2000138932 :
"You know, at the end of the day, World of Warcraft is a vertical progression game, and that's part of the power fantasy, and we're never really going to take that away. But I think having a little bit more nominal power gains per step-up will help."
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I think the horizontal content stems from the max level being and announced as remaining at 60 permanently. However, a level 60 with ilvl 250 gear isn't going to play in the same ballpark as a level 60 with ilvl 60 gear. At some point they're going to create new content that requires better items to tackle it realistically. You won't be coming back after years of not playing and suddenly be useful in a post-Naxxramas raid if you stopped around Molten Core. Jimmy Tryhard isn't going to want to invest 50 hours a week into the game (and whale away at the cash shop) if they stay at the same level of power as Joe McWeekends.
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Animosity
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Someones gotta pay for his Mom's subscription. That meatloaf isnt free!
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