World of Warcraft: Forever
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Tholan
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AoE cap damage is what killed dungeon boost, I am not sure if it's in this version. They also gave an internal cooldown to magic absorption, so no more unlimited mana.
honestly, if these changes can get rid of bots and gold farmer, im all for it.
uniqueuser
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They can’t and they won’t. Shitting up the game mechanics is a full retard approach to stopping RMT. Direct action against accounts involved is the only reasonable way to address the problem and it’s a neverending intervention.
Blizzard claimed yesterday they’ve nuked over 2000 beta accounts for gold *buying* and a lesser number of sellers. I think whatever rate they maintain on live will probably be inadequate as usual though.
Except even that's not true because on the road map they showed in Summer they're revamping an iconic raid.
Do we know what raid? No.
But that goes to show he's wrong.
Turtlewow was good but the dude hated on Turtlewow for like the longest time then he plays it and suddenly he's all for Turtlewow. Bro he's just trying to harvest Turtle viewers.
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Mrniceguy
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I guess i missed that part on the roadmap. But that's extremely pedantic. If you played Turtle or Ascension you should know the amount of revamped/added content with easily 10x what is in/planned for Forever. With the one execption being maybe raid content, which Blizzard seems intent on releasing a similar amount to the pservers.
Think about what you just said here. He hated it before he played it, then he liked it after playing it. I felt the same way about mods/emus because decades ago they were all trash. Then i played Project D2 and that has changed by opinion on Mods/EMUs and now i try them first, are some of them shit sure, but TWoW was definitely in the it was good camp.
Even if you wanna believe in WoW Forever, you should be talking more about how long it took Turtle or Ascension to get to the point they were at and be talking about where Forever will be in 2 years or so. This stuff where you guys pretend like TWoW and Ascension were poorly done or how Forever is a highly polished product, just doesn't fit with reality.
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Blizzard hasn't a hell of a lot more resources than either Ascension or Turtlewow.
I am not a fan of defending Blizzard but I'm not gonna act like they're doing nothing.
At launch they have 9 brand new dungeons, with 9 brand new dungeons do we really need revamped old dungeons? Sure it would be nice but I'll gladly take brand new dungeons over an extra boss in old ones.
Blizzard has plans for new dungeons and raids that are after the 2 new ones that are a month after launch.
Alexsensual if I remember correctly hated Turtlewow for some stupid reasons I think it was WoW drama something to do with the owners of Turtlewow.
Forever is a hell of a lot more polished than Turtlewow just by using a modern client alone. No one fucking wanted the old vanilla client with all the Frankenstein mods to make it semi modern but still fall below a wrath client. Like come on who are you joking here?
You're acting like Forever will take as long as Ascension or Turtlewow to get new content, that's crazy we're talking BLIZZARD and they for once in fucking years are actually fixing things in a beta not just using it as marketing.
You listen to the devs and they actually realize they have something that if they fuck it up they'll lose their jobs because the potential profit for it is massive the beta is huge and it's 60 dollars entry fee.
It's one reason Blizzard walked back their bans despite a bunch of faggots crying how seeing Floyd Thebreathless made them angry, Blizzard they seen the shit storm and just forced name changes instead of keeping bans.
Also let's not pretend, yes Ascension and Turtlewow had revamped and added content. But Classic fags would still bitch if there were just Turtlewow changes.
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Masakari
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Kaines
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No. They have 2 separate teams now. Retail is working on the final Midnight patch and Last Titan.
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Mrniceguy
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You say that as if "Blizzard" isn't run by venture capitalists and diversity hires like Holly. It's not a company run by guys like Jeff Kaplan and Metzen anymore.
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TJT
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Post-Beta 'WoW: Forever': What Is the Development Direction?
'World of Warcraft' has constantly evolved over a long period of time.With each expansion, the world expanded and systems grew more complex.
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Seems they do have some work to do here. As others around have pointed out one of the very fundamental mistakes in Vanilla WoW was the power difference in tier sets. One that loomed over the game like a shadow for many years. The jump from MC gear to BWL is like a 25% power jump. The same from BWL to Naxx.
So much so that a Naxx warrior could almost one shot a MC geared warrior with some crits. They should at least know that this kind of progression is very bad and they need to avoid it.
They will need out how to properly allow horizontal expansions without the endless Skills system something like Runescape has.
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yerm
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Whats wrong with Holly? In what way was she unqualified for the job blizzard hired her for and/or why wasn't she qualified for the promotion she got to where she is now? I'd LOVE to hear your thoughts on this one.
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Burren
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Bad. It looks bad. Ele was one of my top 3 choices to raid with, but not if it stays like this =/
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Elemental Shamans have such a unique role in any group composition that it makes sense that their players are incredibly passionate. WoW: Forever is making some changes to Elemental, so our class expert Lucenia has taken a deep dive into everything you need to know about Elemental in the latest...
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I say that because Blizzard realizes that they're holding a golden grenade.
WoW Forever has the ability to be insanely profitable. However they know if they fumble it that it will explode and cause major damage. I'd assume damage larger than Warcraft 3 Reforged.
Blizzard went on the warpath shutting down Ascension and TurtleWoW. If they bring this out and they fuck it up majorly there won't be a recovery. And by Fuck it up I don't mean class balance or other shit because anyone that's played an MMO knows that class balance is always fucked up at the start of MMO's, I mean if it comes out and it's just flat out worse in every way.
If you've played the beta you can see the potential and Blizzard is doing something crazy which is listening to player feedback. They're fixing bugs, they're adjusting classes, they're adjusting exp, and they're even going back on shit like bans.
I think you underestimate how big of a change that is for Blizzard. We're talking they handed out tons of bans for names and they walked back those bans and turned it into just name changes. If they didn't realize how much potential Forever had they wouldn't have walked those back, they're not listening to just the woke fags the woke fags are basically being told to shut up and deal with it.
Microsoft wants profit, Blizzard is seeing all the layoffs happening around them and they were spared. You don't think Microsoft will go full scorched earth if they fuck this up?
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Mrniceguy
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I'm playing MnM right now, but i've been watching the Beta on the second monitor a lot, hoping to be impressed, because i want it to be good, i really do. It just hasn't looked that way IMO.
They've done a few good things. Their twist on MnMs lighting, weather ect i think are a massive improvement, the graphics are signficantly improved over the PServers, some of the HD models don't make sense, but overall it's better. I think what they've done with Class changes/balance is mostly good, obviously need tweaks, but i like that went with the approach TWoW did and not the approach Ascension took on Class changes.
But the changes to questing design in new Quests is lacking, the new quest/chains/areas don't flow they're slapped in there randomly. In Turtle/Ascension it didn't feel that way. The new DGs seem lazy and lacking inspiration for example Hall of Thanes has like the same Table with Candels model used like 100 times in the same DG. I see woke devs shoehorning their LGBT politics into the game in the new quests ect.
That's the macro problem. I don't think they're movtivated to improve the Classic product the way Ascension and TWoW were. With the 2 Private Servers i think it was about improving a game they loved first and profit was secondary. I think Blizzard is motivated to put out content to make money FIRST and foremost, it frankly feels rushed and a desprate need to make profit deadlines, the exact opposite of old Blizzard, it's ready when it's ready mentality.
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TJT
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Changes to Racials Likely Coming Next Week in WoW: Forever
In the most recent episode of the WoW: Forever Podcast, Aggrend has announced that changes to racial abilities are likely coming next week.
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