WoW Ascension (Classless Realm)

An agreement of some kind was reached, hence the Blizzcon timing and recent NDA leaks on Classic+ codename Camelot.

Blizzard wanted this out of the way, so absolutely all eyes are on Classic+ as their only option to play in the IP.

As mentioned, no IP means no players.

Best of luck to them-- but there's a reason AI clones have no players and no interest. I know Ascension has a hell of a team, one of the best in the history of emulation, but it's just not going to be enough to get past having to create an original IP.

jayrebb said:

An agreement of some kind was reached, hence the Blizzcon timing and recent NDA leaks on Classic+ codename Camelot.

Blizzard wanted this out of the way, so absolutely all eyes are on Classic+ as their only option to play in the IP.

As mentioned, no IP means no players.

Best of luck to them-- but there's a reason AI clones have no players and no interest. I know Ascension has a hell of a team, one of the best in the history of emulation, but it's just not going to be enough to get past having to create an original IP.

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Okay the Warcraft IP is big however I think something to take into account is how big does an MMO need to be to actually make profit?

I think a lot of people get caught up in the thought of an MMO needs to have a massive playerbase like WoW or FF14 to survive but there are ample other MMO's that are alive.

Everquest and Final Fantasy 11 are still very much alive.

Everquest Legends is a hell of a lot smaller than Everquest and it's alive.

Project Gorgon is hella small and it's alive.

The Ascension team has proven they have a concept that works and they have a following of people that are interested in that type of game, they have the audience and they're the same people that buy the 100 dollar pack for each seasonal server, a lot of them. I don't think the IP is going to be the hard part for them.

Also it's worth noting that they stated in the discord something playable will be out before GTA 6. So if they can actually meet that we'll see something playable in a very very rough state before November 19th.

Shit's gonna be interesting to watch unfold. But I also think you're right an agreement was reached with Blizzard. All these rumors of Camelot... Fables... Other bullshit na...

Behold Classic+

jayrebb said:

Best of luck to them-- but there's a reason AI clones have no players and no interest. I know Ascension has a hell of a team, one of the best in the history of emulation, but it's just not going to be enough to get past having to create an original IP.

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Ascensions just different man. Comparing it to other EMUs is like comparing a Nintendo EMU to an Xbox. Ascension is effectively the 4th biggest MMO out right now. Behind WoW, OSRS and FF. Does using WoW Label help draw people in? Definitely. But Blizzard effectively copied SoD from Ascensions Classes server and did it worse with less added content, would expect the same to happen with Classic+, a lower quality bot filled product. Ascension unlike these other EMUs has a bag and the talent to potentially launch an industry juggernaut. Are they guaranteed to succeed? Nah, they still need to prove a lot. But i think they're more likely to be the next big MMO vs like Guild Wars 3.