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tl;dr PS5 version loads saves and areas 4-7x faster than PS4
Not surprising, load times were the only noticeable difference playing it on PC/XSX/X1X using cross-save too. (And PC has ultrawide support.)
 

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So playing this on Ps5. Love the game but sweet Jesus the cut scenes are long. I think I’m playing game 5% of the time and watching cut scenes for 95% of it. I’m in chapter 3. Guessing this gets better after a bit as I’m still unlocking tutorial stuff?
 
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If I play only one yakuza on ps5 with wife who only liked rdr2 and ghost of tsushima. Which would you all suggest?
 

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yakuza 0 is the best start imo, it introduces the characters and world really well and is a great game
yakuza 7 is probably another way to start the series, its mostly disconnected from 0-6 (new protag) and the "newest" and has an actual PS5 version

those are the only two ways i'd start the series
 
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Chapter 12 in Y0, great game so far. I suck at the harder dance lessons, so missing a few submissions. Coliseum atm is fun. But I forgot to level mr. Moneybags, so getting my ass kicked as Majima here sometimes since ability tree’s not maxed. Oh well. Super fun so far.
 
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one other thing to keep in mind, Y0-6 are all in japanese VO, Y7 is the only one that has english VA available and its pretty great, George Takai (Sulu) plays one of the yakuza bosses
 
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- DF Confirms there was a "high frame rate" mode for SX (60 fps/1080p) in the preview build, which was taken out of the final game.
- "Normal" mode runs at 1440p/60 fps on both PS5/SX, 900p/60 on Series S
- "High Resolution Mode" runs at 4K/30 on PS5/SX, 1440p/30 on Series S
- PS5 and SX look identical in terms of textures, pop-in etc.
- The only difference is in shadow filtering. PS5 draws darker thicker lines. DF is not sure which is the intended method.
- Series X to S shows a starker difference. Series S's chosen AA struggles to keep up at 900p/60. Shadow quality is lower but only slightly. Bokeh DoF during scenes is also lower resolution.
- DF also throw in a brief PC comparison regarding how taxing the engine is.
- 1440p/60 FPS "Normal" mode is the recommended mode on both PS5 and SX.
- In their 5 hrs of testing DF can only replicate minor drops in combat with high alpha effects, otherwise its mostly a lock on both.
- Series S is prone to bigger drops in battle but traversal is locked at 60.
- All arcade games run at 60hz too, except Space Harrier which locks to 56fps.
- 4K/30 is prone to improper frame pacing and big skill moves can cause big hits to 20 FPS. Same on SX, PS5 and. Same for Series S at 1440p/30.
- DF recommends sticking to 60 FPS as 30 FPS output feels sluggish and makes prompts in combat and karaoke etc harder to respond to.
- Loading 'fade to blacks' are identical across the systems.



Been playing Y7 on PS5 since it patched earlier this month and really enjoying it, looks great, loads insanely fast (like 2 secs) and its the best Yakuza game so far. Its gonna be hard to go back to Y3-5 after I finish this since I really, really do like the English VA.
 
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I started on High Res mode because I figured there's little point of having 60 fps in a turn-based combat game--which is actually true for the most part, especially if you shut off those stupid QTEs in combat--but then I realized the reason I sucked at minigames was because of the 30 fps cap. Karaoke is the worst... I'm horrible at that in all Yakuza games, but at least I can get a passable score at 60 fps instead of the dismal failure I get every time at 30. I guess you could just change the mode before doing something that really needs 60 fps, but I'm lazy and switched it to 1440p on XSX and left it there. It's not exactly the prettiest game to begin with, so 4K isn't a huge difference anyway.

I played it on PC/XSX/X1X since it's Play Anywhere and the PC version is easily the best though. Ultrawide works great and I can play at 3440x1440 / 60+ fps (if your fps is dipping, multisampling off is about +10 fps and you can't even see the difference with TAA on). I shut DoF and Motion Blur off too, but I doubt they affect fps. Just makes the game look better without that crap. Only downside to platform hopping is for some reason the XSX never wanted to upload saves without jumping through a bunch of hoops. Which was weird because I never had that problem in any other game that's cross-save, and both the X1X and PC upload to cloud instantly when you close the game. Being able to manage cloud saves yourself is one of the few things I actually still prefer on the Sony side of things.

Its gonna be hard to go back to Y3-5 after I finish this since I really, really do like the English VA.
Yep, this is why I still think Judgment is the second best Yakuza game, even if it's just a spin-off. Still pisses me off that Sega is going to charge people who bought it on PS4 full price to play it at 60 fps on PS5, and it's yet another game that won't transfer saves from PS4 to PS5 (so I guess the simple solution is to just rent it for XSX if I want to play it again, at least that way I can use a controller I don't hate).

It's also pretty goddamn retarded that they're bringing it to the dumpster fire known as Stadia but there's no actual PC version.
 

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Plat'd Yakuza Like A Dragon (Yakuza 7) today on PS5, epic game. Awesome story, characters, setting, and I really enjoyed the combat system. Especially for the final dungeon, where all the enemies are level 99 and if you wipe its game over. Easily the best Yakuza game to date imo, although I haven't played Y3-5 yet.

If you've never played a Yakuza game I'd start with Yakuza 0 (Japanese VA) or Yakuza 7 (English VA), both are great entry points to the series. Y0-Y6 are free on gamepass right now.

Gonna take a six month break from Yakuza and tackle Y3 next.
 
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Plat'd Yakuza Like A Dragon (Yakuza 7) today on PS5, epic game. Awesome story, characters, setting, and I really enjoyed the combat system. Especially for the final dungeon, where all the enemies are level 99 and if you wipe its game over. Easily the best Yakuza game to date imo, although I haven't played Y3-5 yet.

If you've never played a Yakuza game I'd start with Yakuza 0 (Japanese VA) or Yakuza 7 (English VA), both are great entry points to the series. Y0-Y6 are free on gamepass right now.

Gonna take a six month break from Yakuza and tackle Y3 next.
Y5 is the best out of 3-5 easily. Trapping mini game with Saejima is fun as hell.
 

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Judgement 2 aka Lost Judgment leaked on the JP PSN store, seems like the official announcement is gonna be tomorrow. PS4/PS5, 9/21/21 release date in Japan hopefully day and date in West too

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official trailer


regular yakuza combat (NOT turn based like LAD), worldwide simultaneous release 9/24/21 on ps4, ps5, and xbox (NO pc date announced). Will take place in Yokohama


one interesting thing people aren't sure about is whether the xbox is Series X/S only or BC with one, the announcement only mentioned series S/X
 
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Head of RGG studios did confirm that the Yakuza series will stay turn-based while the Judgement series will be brawler.
 
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It's too bad they didn't come up with the turn-based idea back when Judgment was in development. I think it would have worked out better that way to have the spin-off series use the new combat and keep Yakuza the same.
 
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weird reason that judgment series may end with Judgment 2, the talent agency repping the main actor (?) doesn't want him to be in PC games. some huge blow up about japanese idols, boy bands, etc not diluting their brand through being on too many digital things. bizarre shit, i guess its sorta like not wanting Taylor Swift to be on coke bottles or something but japan is just weird sometimes. I had no idea the main guy for Judgment was even some sort of pop idol


playing Yakuza 3 now, its weird how the mechanics are so ancient and PS3-era and losing the vast QoL improvements in later remastered games, but still pretty fun story/setting wise.
 

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I just started Judgment on PS5. Not too bad so far. I am more interested in the story than anything. Only thing I do not like is how long it takes for the game to open up.
 

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I just started Judgment on PS5. Not too bad so far. I am more interested in the story than anything. Only thing I do not like is how long it takes for the game to open up.
Y7 is similar and takes a few chapters before you can really free roam. Judgment is good but I got tired of the tailing missions. Lost Judgment is supposed to have less of them.
 
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weird reason that judgment series may end with Judgment 2, the talent agency repping the main actor (?) doesn't want him to be in PC games. some huge blow up about japanese idols, boy bands, etc not diluting their brand through being on too many digital things. bizarre shit, i guess its sorta like not wanting Taylor Swift to be on coke bottles or something but japan is just weird sometimes. I had no idea the main guy for Judgment was even some sort of pop idol


playing Yakuza 3 now, its weird how the mechanics are so ancient and PS3-era and losing the vast QoL improvements in later remastered games, but still pretty fun story/setting wise.
how can your brand/recognition be TOO big? lol
 

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yeah i just chalked it up to some cultural japanese thing i don't get

i still don't really get like host clubs, women (and men!!) just sit around in nice casino like rooms and sit on couches and chat with randos and charge by the hour? What the fuck is this lol Every Yakuza game has a big portion of the game revolve around it and its all so bizarre for me

 
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From what I read the talent agency retards don't know the first thing about gaming. Like their two 'complaints' about Judgment being on PC were that it's not a gaming platform and that it is connected to the internet. Somehow Stadia and consoles that have been connected to the internet for well over a decade were a-ok though.

That said, I'd much rather have more Yakuza LAD sequels than Yakuza/Judgment/Yakuza/Judgment/etc. anyway.
 
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