Star Wars : Rogue One

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Holy shit those quips! You're so right.

Line is gay. Vader would just silently choke the guy. Probably some producer's retarded nephew wrote it, so they had to put it in.
 

Phazael

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Ok, edgelord. Tell me how the line in R1 is significantly different than any of those examples, especially the second one which is probably the exact scene they lifted the idea from.
 

LachiusTZ

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Ever have a resolution to where / when / how all the bothans died getting the death star plans?
 

Miguex

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Holy shit those quips! You're so right.

Line is gay. Vader would just silently choke the guy. Probably some producer's retarded nephew wrote it, so they had to put it in.
I'll give you props for referencing a Kylo Ren line, but I'm in the camp of having had no problem with the line.
 
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Miguex

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Ever have a resolution to where / when / how all the bothans died getting the death star plans?
cordially invited to fuck right off, just like I offered the other person that said almost the same thing half a dozen pages ago.
 

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"and then he walked away in silence"

Yeah.. no. There has to be a line. Not a Shakespearean line, but a snarky put-in-your-place line.
 
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I havent been paying attention . . . so the answer is? Lol

Edit: FML, nm, apparently that is the other death star.

I dont claim to follow this shit w/ any real effort.
 
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I hope Episode 8 continues this darker gritty edge.

I wouldn't count on that. The saga films will likely continue to be broader, more family oriented fare. As for the anthology movies I don't think even Disney/Lucasfilm fully knows exactly what they want those to be right now. R1 and the Solo movie will be part of the feeling out process for that. I think that the direction they will ultimately go with is to take a page from Marvel and blend the Star Wars formula with some of the time tested movie genres. Sometimes that will produce that darker gritty edge you're hoping for like R1. Other times it won't. Personally I'm not expecting this type of story from the Solo movie.
 
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I wouldn't count on that. The saga films will likely continue to be broader, more family oriented fare. As for the anthology movies I don't think even Disney/Lucasfilm fully knows exactly what want those to be right now.
I don't want them to know. I would like those films to be free enough to flesh out the Star Wars universe on film without blockbuster pressure. Varying degrees of success, completely different movies, while the myth/saga episodic ones keep doing the traditional thing.
 
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Royal

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Zero compelling characters in this movie. Name one scene that would be as interesting to go back and watch as Obi-wan/Qwi-gon vs. Darth Maul, Mace Windu vs. the Emperor, Yoda vs. the Emperor, etc. For the most part this movie was made up of a bunch of throw away characters with hardly any background info or reason to care about them, with only cameos from original characters that meant anything to me.

So you need jedi and lightsaber filled action pieces to find a character compelling? If that's your Star Wars jam that's okay but it seems like a rather severe limitation to cling to imo.
 

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I liked it, still lolling at the person above who thought Peter Cushing was still alive

I've actually seen a few people say they thought it was the live actor when he first appeared and didn't realize until later that it was a CGI creation. I guess when we know for a fact that there are a lot of people out there thinking the movie was the sequel to TFA in spite of all of the marketing we shouldn't be surprised that some fraction of them will also have no idea that the guy has been dead for over 20 years.
 

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Diego was pretty stiff in this, you can tell he is not comfortable acting in english.

I liked his character and didn't really see his performance as stiff (though I have only seen his past work in English so I can't compare it to anything on that front). His character is someone who was developing some emotional baggage over his role in the Rebellion, doing things he rather wouldn't but in the name of a cause he thought he believed in and was in the midst of questioning what had it all been for, with defeat now seeming to be a growing certainty. You could see his frustration as he grappled with that yet trying to keep it bottled up enough to perform the task at hand. I wish they would have given him more scenes to show that bubble up to the surface but it was there.
 
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I've actually seen a few people say they thought it was the live actor when he first appeared and didn't realize until later that it was a CGI creation. I guess when we know for a fact that there are a lot of people out there thinking the movie was the sequel to TFA in spite of all of the marketing we shouldn't be surprised that some fraction of them will also have no idea that the guy has been dead for over 20 years.

I knew Cushing died a long time ago and was thinking the whole time, who the hell did they find that looks so much like him?

Dind't find out till later it was actual CGI.
 
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Was good. Think I liked Force Awakens better.

Obviously Empire Strikes Back and A New Hope are still the best.
 

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I knew Cushing died a long time ago and was thinking the whole time, who the hell did they find that looks so much like him?

Dind't find out till later it was actual CGI.

I knew it was CGI as soon as I saw it but was surprised by how close to the genuine article it looked. There were moments here and there, especially as he was talking, that it was noticeable that is was a rendered character but it's impressive that they got as close as they did really.
 
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I mean everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I keep finding this non-compelling character spew to fall short of explanation. Each and every character is explained, but it doesn't have to be spelled out from start to finish to draw the lines, deductive reasoning can fill in most of the blanks and give them their compelling story. Aside from the few one liners that are delivered in explanation, everything is worn on their sleeves.

spoilered for safety of others? idk
I mean, you have the main character who is directly tied to the Death Star by an prominent engineer father who was forced against his will and she saw her mother get shot. Father was in close ties with a known rebel extremist who trained her until she was 16, all the -keyword- extremist knowing she was the daughter of the prominent engineer.. Saw tries to part ways for her safety alone, because, you know, Extremists?

You have a Imperial cargo pilot who defects to be a better person, who wants to do right, and is essentially under the command the girls father to find who is last known contact bridge between father/daughter; Saw. Sure the tentacle torture is a little campy, but its a fun little notch to torture tactics employed by a vast galaxy of creatures, which doesn't imply immediate death. He finds himself relatively useless until they have to break through high imperial security, and having his know about on imperial info/tech. He commands troopers in succeeding in this plan, he lives out an unsung hero.

edit; idk, this is more having recently watching rebels on my commute.. but around this time after the whole clone wars incident.. jedi's/sith were legends/jokes/myths/ect... I think the same applies, so people who believe in the force are how atheist view christians.

You have Chirrut and Baze. It's said as if they're those sermon crazed fanatics, more specifically Chirrut. We as the audience knew the immediate connection in the force and his ability to pick up something like the kyber crystal on Jyn neck; for all we know the force is with him. He is granted a sense of vision through the force, implied time and time again. We also, from what Cassian says, learn that he was the guardian of a Jedi temple*or Whills, which i'm still not sure the difference completely, thats beyond me) in which the Empire was farming kyber crystals from. He was out of a job at that point, and again, a few times over, we find that he can sense feelings and understand them to a level no one else can, which gives us the reason he follows Jyn; the whole purity/innocence bullshit. I will give you little is said about Baze, but it's easy to cast him as the deductive reasoning for Chirruts cooky monk behavior, hes the parrot to a pirate. He is the one who translates to the other characters in the cast, and is heavily implied long time friend.

Cassian is pretty straight forward, and it all gets laid out more specificly than the rest. For the most part he is the reflection of Jyn, but he is the guy that instead of running justifies everything he does for the sake of the rebellion. We see the conflict of action and decision throughout the film.

There isn't much to be said abotu K2, other than hes a reconfigured imperial droid.. so he has to be filled with dialog.

I mean sure, they honestly could have gone crazy in depth with backstory and fleshing out the characters entire history, shit they could probably run off and make movies about them if they really wanted to.. cliche as they all are, it'd probably been a waste because ultimately the film is still about the death star, and thats it. It's from the rebellions perspective of how to attack a colossal monstrosity. The disagreement between the alliance, and the -hope- we all know. It's fitting that theyre all dead, because its the cost of war, its the heroic sacrifice. I mean, we cant exactly expect the rebellion to do some dday shit on the archives when its made up of a counsel of people who are arguably against the rebellion, but aren't fully dedicated to repersent the loss that is involved w/ going against them.

I can understand most of TFA characterization hate; being that it is suppose to be a trilogy of sorts.. and being modern day, so much fleshy left out bits that keep us scratching our heads for no good reason and without proper direction other than the -obvious- goodbadsithjedi

I don't expect an indepth detail of why you think so, but honestly you sound like my dad when trying to show him movies(he liked the first starwars, and thought the rest were stupid given at the time groundbreakingness), and barely watching anything outside of black and white films. Extremely harsh critic when it comes to vietnam films, to the point he won't even watch em. If I put a computer infront of him and try to teach him, he'd rather learn how to use it with a hammer. I just openly accept the idea that he says anything cgi related gets him sick as the plausible answer.

Other than that, I find it hard to follow any complaints other than the use of CGI for Tarkin.. which is admirable and nice, but its heavy handed and clearly noticed. I'm just surprised i'm the only one who is left scratching their head that the imperial star destroyers are fucking stark white, it looks like they rolled out of whatever 3d program used and forgot to shade in some color on them. I mean unless they're suppose to be white, but i'm pretty sure they've been grey through and through.
 
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Go back and re-watch A New Hope, the star destroyers in Episode IV are pretty freaking white.

It's only in ESB and Jedi that the Star Destroyers have a grey cast to them.