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I was seeing this "theorycraft" on reddit too, and I have no idea what they are thinking, but the Battlecry simply states: Summon a 1/1 of all other minions.
So Shudderwock will never copy himself, you would just get another 1/1 chain gang with battlecry to summon a 2/3.

Where's this 1/1 coming from? Shudderwock battle cry says repeat all battlecries from battlecry cards you've played this game, SCG says summon a copy of this minion.

I wouldn't be surprised if that particular battlecry summoned nothing, as it wouldn't actually be battlecried from the Shudderwock, but it was battlecried from the battlecry and therefore failed to copy a target.

as for piper, Isn't Barnes rotating?
Witchwood Piper seems shit unless there are certain minions I'm missing that this would draw.
 
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So i've been thinking about a Quest Hunter deck that includes Baku in order to create even more pressure from the hero power damage.

Quest Aggro-ish Hunter

The Marsh Queen × 1
Dire Mole × 2
Fire Fly × 2
Raptor Hatchling × 2
Stonetusk Boar × 2
Timber Wolf × 2
Animal Companion × 2
Eaglehorn Bow × 2
Ironbeak Owl × 1
Kill Command × 2
Ravencaller × 2
Vicious Fledgling × 2
Bittertide Hydra × 2
Leeroy Jenkins × 1
Tol'vir Warden × 2
Tundra Rhino × 2
Baku the Mooneater × 1

The one drops lose significantly with Fiery Bat and Alleycat rotating out. Raptor Hatchling and/or Timberwolf could get replaced by Glacial Shards and/or Argent Squires, although i like the Timberwolves for synergy with Tundra Rhino.

My question to you bros is, since i missed most of the Un'goro meta, is/was Quest Hunter any good? If yes/no, why yes/no?
 
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Where's this 1/1 coming from? Shudderwock battle cry says repeat all battlecries from battlecry cards you've played this game, SCG says summon a copy of this minion.

I wouldn't be surprised if that particular battlecry summoned nothing, as it wouldn't actually be battlecried from the Shudderwock, but it was battlecried from the battlecry and therefore failed to copy a target.

as for piper, Isn't Barnes rotating?
Witchwood Piper seems shit unless there are certain minions I'm missing that this would draw.
Oh gotcha, you're right and now I see. I didn't read the chain gang wording lol.
Seems like in that case he'll copy himself.
The 1/1 is from the other shaman legendary that returns other minions to hand.
So I'm guessing it'll work after all. Could theoretically play him twice on 10 mana
 
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So i've been thinking about a Quest Hunter deck that includes Baku in order to create even more pressure from the hero power damage.

Quest Aggro-ish Hunter

The Marsh Queen × 1
Dire Mole × 2
Fire Fly × 2
Raptor Hatchling × 2
Stonetusk Boar × 2
Timber Wolf × 2
Animal Companion × 2
Eaglehorn Bow × 2
Ironbeak Owl × 1
Kill Command × 2
Ravencaller × 2
Vicious Fledgling × 2
Bittertide Hydra × 2
Leeroy Jenkins × 1
Tol'vir Warden × 2
Tundra Rhino × 2
Baku the Mooneater × 1

The one drops lose significantly with Fiery Bat and Alleycat rotating out. Raptor Hatchling and/or Timberwolf could get replaced by Glacial Shards and/or Argent Squires, although i like the Timberwolves for synergy with Tundra Rhino.

My question to you bros is, since i missed most of the Un'goro meta, is/was Quest Hunter any good? If yes/no, why yes/no?
Quest was never good. Turns out missing turn 1 with an aggro deck isn't too good
 
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Quest was never good. Turns out missing turn 1 with an aggro deck isn't too good

I'm wondering if quest hunter might work better running that new card that generates 1 drops. The body attached to that card is bad, but it lets you run less 1 drops in your deck to start, theoretically making your deck have a better curve since you can add more 2 and 3 drops to it, assuming you don't go with Keleseth. Just spitballing.

RE: Shudderwock. If that card is real, it enables a few interesting archetypes.

Run 2 chain gang, and the minion that spawns 1/1 skeletons, or the minion that spawns 2/3 rats, and Thrall Deathseer. When you play Shudderwock on an empty board after all of that, you get 3 6/6's (shudderwock + 2 copies), 4 1/1s (or 2 2/3s), and then evolve them twice, assuming it goes in order. Pretty strong. Plus you could likely set this up pretty easily if you draw everything on curve.

Or maybe something like 2 fungalmancers, murmuring elementals, Tol'vir stoneshaper, firefly, bonemare, and maybe stone sentinel. Spawns 2 2/3 minions with taunt, and gives them lots of 4+4 and 2+2 buffs while gaining taunt + divine shield. Pretty strong, but will take a LONG time to set up.

This kind of thing is also weak to hard board clears like Psychic scream and Twisting Nether, but that might be moot because they might have to use those clears on the initial minions instead of Shudderwock.
But whatever, looks like a fun card.
 
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Right now it feels like warrior is actually going to be worse in this expansion, which is impressive.
 
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Pretty sure warrior shaman and hunter are going to be in the dumpster this xpack.
 
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Pretty sure warrior shaman and hunter are going to be in the dumpster this xpack.

Warrior definitely gonna be dumpster, hunter will definitely be in the dumpster as well, the tool they really needed was a sap/poly type card to get through taunts (i.e. voidlords).

Shaman i think it may be too early to tell. They are getting so much varied stuff that something might work out. I could see a deck with selected battlecries, shudderwock, and evolves working decently enough. not tier 1, but well enough.
 
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Really nice 3 drop.
 
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It's pretty good, the Lifesteal mainly, for a Control list.
really Great if you can Kings it on 4.
I think the condition will be tough to meet in most cases though without putting bad cards in your deck.
Steed is ok on it, the taunt is meaningless then, but lifesteal is still good.
 
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This game tilts me so bad. Warrior wins brawl twice with 5 minions on board. Faggot.
 
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Quineloe

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I wonder if you evolve Shudderwock if he stops doing things kind of like Yogg
Is there a evolve a minion battlecry? Would be pretty strong, given Shudderwock is just an 8 mana 6/6 and I guess most 9 mana minions are stronger.
 
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Is there a evolve a minion battlecry? Would be pretty strong, given Shudderwock is just an 8 mana 6/6 and I guess most 9 mana minions are stronger.
DK is a battlecry.
I prefer not to add him though because it seems like the Grumble+Saronite combo is much more powerful (infinite Shudderwocks)... unless the Battlecry is RANDOM and he casts Grumble before Saronite during the sequence.

Without understanding everything yet with his effect, here's my current list:


WIP Battlecry - Hearthstone Decks
WIP Battlecry

Basically survive and control board until you can play a Saronite --> Grumble, then Shudderwock for dominance.
 
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Threw down for the 70 packs. I have 3000 gold and 6000 dust. Time to casual grind during the week fam. Also Ravishing Ravishing I was trying to finish my watch a friend win quest and god damn, you lost 7 in a row with that warrior deck I had to walk off and grab a beer lol.

If you aren't doing the daily quest with a free pack for each one btw y'all are missing out.
 
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Threw down for the 70 packs. I have 3000 gold and 6000 dust. Time to casual grind during the week fam. Also Ravishing Ravishing I was trying to finish my watch a friend win quest and god damn, you lost 7 in a row with that warrior deck I had to walk off and grab a beer lol.

If you aren't doing the daily quest with a free pack for each one btw y'all are missing out.

Was that 2 nights ago? Yes I was a little agitated haha. I figured you were just afk spectating. I was just trying to get a Warrior quest done (needed 1 win) haha.
I've since deleted the deck and then got another Warrior quest (play 50 cards)....,. which I just spammed a 30 warrior card deck in Casual.

I have been wasting gold in Arena because I just can't stand the ladder right now. NEED Thursday to get here.
 
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Was that 2 nights ago? Yes I was a little agitated haha. I figured you were just afk spectating. I was just trying to get a Warrior quest done (needed 1 win) haha.
I've since deleted the deck and then got another Warrior quest (play 50 cards)....,. which I just spammed a 30 warrior card deck in Casual.

I have been wasting gold in Arena because I just can't stand the ladder right now. NEED Thursday to get here.

Oh I was AFK all right. After watching you lose for 45 minutes straight :D.
 
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It's pretty good, the Lifesteal mainly, for a Control list.
really Great if you can Kings it on 4.
I think the condition will be tough to meet in most cases though without putting bad cards in your deck.
Steed is ok on it, the taunt is meaningless then, but lifesteal is still good.

Don't forget it's also activated by Sunkeeper Tarim.
 
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Don't forget it's also activated by Sunkeeper Tarim.

True, I mean, I really don't see this card in a Control list at all.
But I'm really curious if it somehow finds a way in an aggro list.
It's really funny next to Dire Wolf, also Kings, or the Weapon buff...
Maybe an aggro Lynessa deck comes to fruition, idk.
I've seen some versions of an OTK/Lynessa/Aggro paladin (OTK goes away with rotation).
It's not a terrible card, but it's definitely a tough one to find a slot for atm.
 
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