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This may sound silly, but I always loved mining. I don"t know why. I just get excited seeing that sucker on my track and swinging that pick. Liked it in WOW. Liked it in LOTRO. What I think the real issue is with harvesting is that it becomes a total necessity for raiding when you throw in the...

Death penalties. People who think they are a must should always suffer them ;p THE first MMO ever, NWN on aol never had one (well for the trivia nut it had a tiny one where you might lose an item from inventory in your top slot, but people just put a single arrow there) and it lasted over 7...

Never bothered with shadowbane so can"t speak from experience, but that does sound like an easy way to just power level up heheh.

Problem is if you make encounters too "class specific" you make it harder for people to form groups to do it. Group formation is another issue that has plagued all these games as well. I am sure many of us can relay how often they gave up trying to do certain things simply because they couldn"t...

The first sentence is not something I would have ever admitted to ;p As for the second, the hard part with that will be the balancing act. This has ALWAYS been a fighting issue with all these games. Ideally you would love it to be the case, but in practice it becomes an impossible task...

Well I should clarify, when I used the term PC titles, it meant console titles as well since they are basically compatible.

If your regular PC title fails odds are so will your MMO and at bigger cost. GMG is a total startup. It has zero history. If they somehow make this knock your socks off (no pun intended) MMO game, which is just incredibly hard to do, then fine. But there is only one WOW to date. I know of no...

And there"s the rub. The industry is one big evolutionary process. What may be fun today, will be boring tomorrow. Not to harp on VG as an example, but I always viewed it as an attempt at making a better horse buggey. And since the development process for a MMO can be years, you can literally...

Heh, well, basically we have a person who loved playing EQ forming a new company to design a new game over many years, seeking a business partner to, presumably, foot a good chunk of the bill, giving such commitment mostly on faith. Man this sounds familiar.

So basically we have no clue what is being designed.

Well many of us talked about an unreleased MMO called Vanguard, and trust me that was a date a lot of us didn"t wind up going on heheh. Seriously, if you sift through these threads you really can get a sense of what the market likes and dislikes. Worse thing to do is ignore that pulse, stay...

To be honest, I have turned into a "show me guy." I have zero confidence in Studio 38 until I actually see something worthwhile.

QFT. Next gen is the one that figures out how to move away from this.

Munch is kind of cute, but I keep thinking "batman beacon" when he has his mouth wide open heheh.

Well a somewhat non-committal answer, but seems like it implies he is aiming more for a larger, wider audience. Of the many Brad wall of text posts, one that caught my interest involved his prediction of areas of growth in the genre. I truly can see, say a sports MMO for example, performing...

Sorry for jumping into this late, but am just curious. Exactly what kind of market are you looking at with your first game? Something niche, or more general?

Yeah thats smart business. All that does is encourage crappy CS and alienate customers. I remember threads on the old ranger forum board trying to figure out that zone. People in essence wasting tons of hours trying to figure out something that just wasn"t finished. Were the devs just laughing...

Well Schatze you could have fooled a lot of us in your earlier, seemingly drug induced posts lol. Last few have been more sane. My opinion, atm, which I think I have made redundantly clear, is I think VG has become a failure in terms of expectations, financial investment and end product to...

Schatze, you are spinning as much as Brad, yet you don"t see it. There is first one given, Brad fudges things. He equivocates. He will use vague adverbs freely. There are things we do know. We do know MS was the venture capitalist. I submit but cannot prove on my own that they contributed all...

Finally a non drug induced commentary. As a generalization you might be right. A game generating 150-200k could be profitable, DEPENDING upon its cost. But who is putting the spin now? You know darn well he didnt sell this project to MS with those numbers, because otherwise they never would have...

So you are in essence quibbling over MAYBE A DIFFERENCE OF 2 SUBS? (i.e. 149,999 vs 150,001). (rolls eyes).

Hey dickhead, Brad claims those numbers in this thread, not utnayan. And wtf listing words like developer, publisher, venture capital has ANYTHING to do with the fact that Brad squandered 30-40 million bucks on a niche game is beyond me. Yes you are right venture capitalists love losing tons of...

I sure hope you don"t run a business. Spending between 30-40 million dollars on a game that generated under 150k subs is a failure in any businessman"s mind. You really think you know better than MS? You think their walking away from that investment was done lightly? When you start running your...

Whose reality? Yours?

Not saying you shouldn"t love what you are doing. But this is above all else a business, and if you don"t have the pulse of the market you will simply fail. And I am sure Brad sold MS on the project with visions of high subs, not hey a few of us love this so give us 30 million bucks to make it...

Actually this is a very valid point. People really did get angry over the spin that constantly came out of Abashi"s mouth for example (who imo is the perfect example of the Peter Principle in action). A simple "sorry gang, POM is not working atm and no eta on when it will" would have done...

And that says it all in a nutshell. And that"s why it fails, because the large current market of today doesn"t want to play that game.

Yeah but I like reading this shit, keep it coming lol.

Neric take the tinfoil off. Now if a dozen of the anti Brad folks were banned around the same time then you might have an argument. UT was simply not the only person bashing him. Just scroll through this thread and you will see.

That"s actually pretty funny.

Let"s not go down the Valerie Plame road, who got a friggin million dollars to write a dam book. Man out me any time for that.

So Nola, we can basically conclude that UT is pretty much just paranoid heheh. And UT, you know I was always a defender of you, but back off on this one please.

Eh not sure about rickshaw, maybe an overall hall of fame. There were some really mind boggling posts in this thread leading to some spicy discussion.

I dunno but the view hit on this thread is approaching EVE"s lol. Gotta love drama heheh.

UT, please take my advice here, you really aren"t making any case for your "argument." It is beyond belief that it would even be true, Brad would have to be the most shallow, vindictive, petty person on the planet. Yeah I think he is a used car salesman who just spins, but I just can"t believe...

Actually I disagree. I was pretty much a lurker until I got caught up in the Brad/UT debates way back. Many people bashed UT tons, some of it deserved, but I always defended him since what he had to say had value. I called Brad out quite a few times here, as well as others. I and others made...

Really?

Oh come on MK, for a 30+ million dollar game that absolutely sucks.

What solid arguments? This whole topic is subjective. Make whatever argument you want, it is all about the subs in the end. If few people want to play the game that is it, case closed. Doesn"t mean that those who are playing aren"t enjoying it. Ultimately to each his own. Bottom line is this...

Was pretty much squandered on half-baked, outdated ideas. Have to tip my hat off to Brad for actually talking MS into spending the bucks without even seeing anything substantial first. Of course, after a few years and 30+ million MS finally got wise and cut its losses. Sorry but a company...