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There are 2 things that still puzzle me about this fiasco. 1. Why was there such a clear lack of effort during the KS ? I mean, was it hubris or was there no effort put in because it was all a smokescreen. and 2. What is the deal with the mystery figure. How much did they ACTUALLY take in...

why when i think about all this i think... money laundering . . .

i find the sandboxy nature of its description interesting.... but zombies are so overdone at this point.

Ya its pretty much over. Just consider the consolidation in the industry since 07 and see what has trended, its all the same crap over and over again. Even in single player stuff.

Dood i am in sales, he would suck.

well it was obvious when the KS failed because it was so poorly done... that and the obvious last minute, rush to get content into the KS... it was obvious the whole thing ( the campaign and the content ) were not worked on very much at all. In the end the idea was an easy sell to me because I...

THis and schillings disaster. I mean fuck, it is so clear that it is nearly impossible to have a startup enter the MMO space these days, funding is still controlled by too few in the games industry or there would be more diversity imo.

Exactly, some kind of report telling ok Apprentice Developers, he is what you have been paying for...but these are donations the developers do not own anything... this is why i hate KS and things like it, seems too easy to do nothing and get paid to do nothing.

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There is not evidence of any specific involvement in this scheme other than Brad because his name was behind the whole thing... i.e. It couldn't have happened unless he signed off on it... now, as to how much the other guys new/not .... i would love to know that too because they could be part of...

did anyone notice that this part "NOTE: ANY MONEY PLEDGED WILL NOT BEING GOING TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME; INSTEAD IT WILL GO TOWARDS KEEPING THE WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING AND TO OTHER MAINTENANCE COSTS. WE WILL ADVISE YOU WHEN AND IF THIS CHANGES." is below the fold.... how about below...

Did he really tweet that ? I thought that was just "theory" of many..

or perhaps this is Brad's master plan to create a website that PAYs him to help design a game LOL

well said. If the money is gone, where did it go ? why nothing showable for 160k ? We were getting an alpha build with 800 k in what they said 6mon ? Now perhaps 160 does not get you anything you can show ? But given the obvious lack of effort and pure "thrown together at the last minute"...

Not a bad Vision there but not the one we want to play/pay forUnless perhaps invited to the parteeee !

Seems not

He will buy his Ferrari back maybe....?

Since those are donations i wonder if peeps get to at least write it off ? Lol

Kudos i have been seeing your posts on here and foh for years now and still look far too long at your avatar.

I hear ya, i tried it a bit on the russian servers, but i think some of the bad translations threw me off... will try again but would love to help test out the NA one, i think i entered for beta but must check again.

Curses. I loaded rerolled to non MMO section did a scan and thought this one got shawed

You know, i saw this post and LOL'd but you are probably right... business guy needed. But Smed has not exactly lit the world on fire since either.

You can do that now with a tool that someone put out. . .

Vanguard was a pretty kick ass game from a design perspective, so the dood has done good stuff... however, obviously having him run the acquire funding part of these things seems pretty fail. I think that was pretty much the consensus Brad needs someone to manage the business and he to simply...

indeed mr popscicle. He has delivered plenty of new material !

u r so cool make sure to root them all out !

Must have been all that back pay, for thinking up a kickstarter LOL

this thread should be rickshawed like the other... lets not give them anymore press IMO.. that ship has sailed.

I am forced to agree with Abe here... The vitriol on here was insane and I thought it was unwarranted but maybe you guys saw something I didn't.. I mean, i get they are "trying funding options" and such but they just took the 150 and halted. What I do not get is where the money from the site is...

I wonder what they would have done with 800k . . . I guess many of us got off easy here.

/weaksauce

Anxiously listening to what you guys are finding.. keep the info coming.. i can't seem to get into an MMO these days at all.. i lose interest so fast and think, shit solo experiences are better.. pvp may be what is necessary for the hook

nothing wrong with being patient

Thanks ! i noticed that if i cast an ice spell on mob, then hit same mob with Fire spell the ICE dot that was on mob goes poof... i thought that was cool .

Is a new english patch needed ? they updated today, anyone have a link to one ?

We talking linear dungeons or complex shit ?

thanks all for the infos. Last question, can i be a CC-Stealth-Backstabbing mage ? lol

Can someone comment on 2 things here. 1. Classes - are there interesting fun classes or whatever in this game, preferably with a group focus ( i.e. good in a group, thinking CC heals etc ) 2. How much group content is there ?

are servers down ? seems so but can't tell hehe

u r a superhero