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I didn't say that. My point is for every legitimate game and group how many scammers are on Kickstarter? What percentage of these 'projects' will actually develop into something worthwhile? More importantly, what accountability is there for these entities? The last point being the biggest reason...

Sadly, there is only one Richard Garriott and the rest of the game designers all suck. Just ask him. The problem with SWTOR is it was a fun single player game, but unfortunately it had WOW's skill system and endgame pasted on top. I get the feeling ESO might be the same thing. Ah well, the...

How do you determine the scammer from the legit project one should support? The only way one can really determine anything is via name recognition, and in my opinion the guys we know with the big bucks are the least deserving of the lot on KS. It's not a big risk to spend 20 bucks, but it's a...

The only book that doesn't interest me is winning here... More people need to vote!

Does not compute.Preordering a game via Kickstarter that *may* be released in 2, 3, or 5 years in no way is a deal or savings. I might be missing your meaning here, though. I believe the idea of Kickstarter is bad. I particularly loathe very wealthy people peddling for cash from young gamers...

My eyes after reading that thread. Bleeding. There's always a few out there. The GCD argument was just silly. I think EQ2 would've been far more successful if they had upset the few who liked their bloatware system and fixed it to be more streamlined and less tedious.

I wanted to be a fan of the game but just couldn't with the issues of bloat. I'd love some simple statistics on how many people who are MMO players and tried EQ2 had a favorable impression on their combat system and abilities. I've yet to talk to anyone who actually liked it. Maybe Hartsman...

Any time you do a similar project again you generally do it more efficiently, correct? That's pretty much my sole point regarding this project and Jacobs. DAOC used a flat file 'database' and mostly old MUD code, a la EQ. While I'd guess CU won't go that far, I'll be amazed if most new games...

It'll get enough funding due to the nature of the game and the fact Jacobs is well known. Does it deserve to get the cash over a valid indy dev team? Hell no. As much as I respect the supporters of Kickstarter even if I do not agree with them, it boggles my mind that so many people give money to...

Admit it, you still want that +5 Vorpal Blade. I'm cool with numbers, but less keen on class based 'boxes'. I'd prefer to have classes with a lot more customizing and with an eye on dynamic growth, a la SWG, but done in a less tedious manner. I think a lot of what SOE are doing is hype, but...

That trailer did nothing for me. This movie really should have moved more into a Blade direction and taken an R rating and went completely in the spirit of Wolverine. I guess if they can screw up the Chris Claremont Dark Phoenix saga, then it's not a leap for them to dumb down Wolverine goes to...

One third of that post was dead serious.

He's trying to generate interest, but hey, he's no Paul Barnett. Infrastructure is not nearly as hard as you are making it out to be. Plus, I'd wager he has quite a bit of code in hand from the previous titles he's shipped, including his MUDs. It's far, far easier now then it was 10 years ago...

Actually, I'm looking forward to that. It's like DAOC without the shitty in realm dungeons or camping at the trees for days.

Hey, as someone who has played almost two days I'm glad to hear that.. How the heck did that not get in for release? I'll keep playing and see how it goes after my week of free WOW is over. The combat is decent. The quests are meh, but standard fare. I'm currently playing a Priest. As I'm...

I didn't change the title of the thread, I'm guessing a mod/admin did, maybe to be funny. I made it to discuss MMO Design and Garriot's <overinflated> opinion on them and himself. My opinions on kickstarter are simply my own, and have more to do with the lack of real accountability in...

I like the new title of the thread even if I didn't come up with it! Caliane, initally it was a posted as a discussion of Garriot projects: UO, Tabula Rasa, and his post that MMO game designers all suck, except for himself. I don't think kickstarter sucks. I really wish I had a project I...

Which sounds great, until I remember it'll be from SOE, and there will be some sort of silly cash shop setup on top of everything. Still, I liked the model used for Planetside even if I didn't care too much for the game itself.

That doesn't look too bad, but what is it bringing to the table that will justify a sub I wonder? I'll be amazed if this is buy to play, and not sub based. That trailer really made the game look more Elder Scrolls and less generic MMO which would be a very good thing.

I played an hour on this, and it wasn't terrible. I'm curious how the dungeons are at higher levels. It figures the week I download this I get free playtime for both Rift and WOW....

Perhaps I'm missing something but with Kickstarter and really the whole concept of crowdsourcing is it really 'investing', or is it more like preordering vaporware with no refund recourse? That's the part I have issues with, as well as the methodology and lack of oversight. Venture capital is...

On a whim I downloaded the game and made an account. Did you mess around at all, Draeg? I figured if I have enough free MMOs to play and rotate them, it'll make up for the fact none of them are fresh...

I wouldn't donate anything to Kickstarter since I disagree with the premise. I respect the fact people *want* to support indy games and smaller companies. What I don't understand is contributing to multi millionaire gamer insiders like Chris Roberts, Garriott, or Mark Jacobs.

I hear you. I was 21 when Eye of the World came out. The first few books were great fun. I re-read the first 10 and then the last 4 over the last few weeks. I love the world and background still, but really Jordan just went crazy with the side stories and bit part characters. I enjoyed the...

I figured since so many of our other game threads devolve into design discussions, that this would be a useful topic. I think there are some very good game designers, but also many who live under the constraints of corporate behemoths with micromanagement, and others who make games without much...

To kill two birds with one stone, I figured I'd start an original UO thread and link the PC Gamer article featuring Garriott and his very Utnayan'ish views, which is pretty strong given what a mediocre game Tabula Rasa turned out to be. http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/19/ri...esigners-suck/...

The question I have is even if you can get the cash, why would Zenimax want to make this? As has been noted, if they really wanted to build a killer online game, wouldn't you leverage the company that has been doing it for 15+ years: iD software? Leverage the original Elder Scrolls team and...

I'd love to see the original design document for what exactly they had planned for the endgame of SWTOR. I enjoyed the game for a few months, but my opinion was the same as yours in that the WOW copied talents and grinds really did not appeal to me. Since that model chased away a good chunk of...

The freemium models though allow for a lot more flexibility. There's life insurance, guardian angel insurance, demigod insurance, and the ever popular SOE Premier pass 'save' feature for those few who pay the top tier costs! As many others have noted, a death penalty has the potential to make...

What exactly did he do at Vanguard? What exactly is he supposed to do at EQ? More importantly, why should I care?

On one side I agree that DAOC was great fun. The group vs group combat was excellent, and the relic raids and Darkness Falls configuration did foster a large sense of community. The game also came out at the perfect time. On the flip side I really disliked the onslaught of nerfs based primarily...

Yup, I meant ad hominem, but as I multitask and post via breaks at work I tend not to do a ton of proofreading. This is similar to others who don't have all day to peruse obscure gaming blogs and be haughty and douche-ish on friendly MMO forums. Why all the anger there, dude? Jacobs lay you off...

I don't understand this decision at all. Why not leave all the PVE content open and wall the RVR/PVP into a separate area. As good a design as Frontiers was initially, the PVE decision to wall off content was equally poor. Essentially, make the world similar to how it is in Guild Wars 2...

Speed was never a game changer. I like there being a single 'bard like' class. Unique abilities are good. Hell, even Left Axe was bearable. Permanent invisibility is a terrible design decision, but it was capable of being overcome by a good group. The only thing that can't is a poorly designed...

You obviously never played DAOC nor followed it's die hard fans. It's not that hard to make a good niche game with a solid leadership team. Jacobs already has done this before.

Denaut, trying to up the hit count to your blog, mate? There's zero substance in your argument except an ad hoc against Jacob's writing style. Jacob's posts are half part sales, half part hyperbole, but what would you expect from someone trying to raise funds and build interest in a saturated...

You pretty much summed up corporate America in a nutshell, there. I'd guess Curt did quite a lot to help the people at .38S, even at the end. That said, Curt did hire an executive team to run the company. I'd love to hear what, if anything, they actually did besides blow a lot of Curt's money...

For those who started playing recently, is the combat system still an abomination or have they made any adjustments?

The biggest drawback historically for consoles was in communications, and that's easily overcome via voice. Controls and abilities can be tailored around a gamepad easily. Skyrim managed it decently, although magic wasn't great. I'll have to read up more on this guy, but if it has a...

There are about 30 or so people in this thread. The same three are the ones who keep asking for a EQ/UO over and over. The vast majority of the rest of us just want something new, fresh, and somewhat different. There are a lot of very good posts in this thread to chew on that give ideas about...