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You are right, intelligence oversight rules have been in place forever. However, rules that sounded fine 10 years ago when they were only tapping overseas phone lines don't seem nearly sufficient when we are moving to almost ubiquitous surveillance. It is completely rational for someone to have...

That is indeed the bottom line. If he was indeed calling in everytime he saw someone black walk through the neighborhood, as was insinuated by some people in this thread, he would have been calling far more often.

You have implied over and over again that the media didn't blow things out of proportion or make shit up, yet you yourself did the very same thing the media did. It's fucking hilarious.

What you forget is that the police at the scene didn't just ignore the evidence. They looked at the evidence presented and it was fairly clear that Zimmerman had acted in self-defense. Then the first prosecutor made the same determination. Only after it got drummed up in the media and fairly...

The McNulty stuff in s5 almost made me stop watching the show. I felt it was just way silly and completely over the top. Felt like I was watching another show during those scenes.

You have a warped view of the system. I hope one day you don't have to go to trial for something you didn't do, simply because a prosecutor wants to gamble with your life.

A trial shouldn't be a fishing expedition in the hope that you get a super weak jury. It is a tremendous burden on someone to be forced to go to trial. If you aren't sure you have enough evidence to convict, just prosecuting them is an abuse.

Much as you want to make this about abunch of racists and conservatives vs Duppin, there are just as many liberals in this thread that also think Zimmerman didn't deserve to go to trial for this. This isn't a liberal vs conservative thing.

I don't believe Zimmerman is an angel. I believe he was simply watching out for his neighborhood and then used his firearm in a completely legal case of self defense. It isn't about some weird liberal boogeyman. The media clearly played up the racial angle to get more people to care, in a...

Seems more likely that the prosecutor got swept up in all the media frenzy and went out on a limb with 2nd degree murder. I just don't believe that someone would overcharge someone in an attempt to let them go free. That is all kinds of levels of abuse of authority.

I'm not sure at all that it is 2nd degree murder or bust. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/us...n-florida.html This article and others I have looked at said it is still possible for the judge to instruct the jury to consider a lesser charge, which is what I think will happen. They clearly...

It is just too bad that the damage was already done. It set the narrative that Zimmerman was just stopping people because they were black. NBC should at least have apologized on-air and made a big deal about it. Instead, it seems most people don't even know it happened.

In all seriousness though, we have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Zimmerman wouldn't have questioned a white kid in the neighborhood wearing a hoodie. A hoodie I say, because a hoodie isn't a neutral element of clothing. Anything that helps cover up the face is going to raise suspicions...

Its too late now. Its on the internet. If your wife ever kills someone, this post will be used to prove her racism.

That actually happens in Evangelion?

Tanoomba is great. I agreed with him in the thread on women as friends, completely disagree with him here. He is coming at this from a way too emotional angle but at least he isn't making up shit like Duppin.

Sure dude, no one is denying that there are ways to approach someone that might initiate a fight and it be your fault. He could have come running Trayvon yelling curse words. He could have called him racial slurs with his hand on his gun and be talking about lynching or something. Yet any of...

Again, you bring up racism, as if you can ascribe to Zimmerman that of course he was going after him because he was black. You look bad everytime you do that, its just slander. Instead, its much more likely that he suspected something was up because he saw someone that he had never seen...

Yep, great post.

Okay, he completely exaggerated both the nature of the call (911 vs non-emergency line) and said it was over one year instead of 8 years. He still won't admit the evidence he used to justify Zimmerman's racism was wrong, instead he said "lolhismyspace" page. So yeah, Duppin being Duppin.

Says the guy who made up complete lies about 911 calls in order to try and paint Zimmerman as a racist.

Yes, please watch that Tanoomba.

It is totally innocent to follow people in a neighborhood that has experienced many break-ins before. Especially when you consider that his surveillance resulted in a conviction. On the other hand, Im hardpressed to understand why a kid would take a screwdriver and abunch of women's jewelry...

So the Kaiju are really engineers? Or were they created from the black goo? Im so confused, where does Pacific Rim fit in the Prometheus-Alien-Aliens timeline?

Yeah, he was just a guy, carrying around abunch of women's jewelry and a screwdriver in his backpack while at school. Totally normal.

Great great video. Thanks for the link.

All we know of his actions are that he followed someone for a bit, called the police, and then backed off when told to. That in no way makes him worthy of any blame. Now maybe he was at fault, maybe he threw a punch, maybe he called Trayvon a "crack ass American Inventor" or something. However, we have...

Do you wanna fight bro? It is like you are trying to make this shit personal!

Pan's Labyrinth, Mimic, the Hellboys? You found those loud, ugly and garish? I'll give Blade II to you.

Probably, I mean after how wrong you were on your previous source, pretty sure you completely exaggerated what is said on the Myspace page also.

Which of course you have no evidence of. In fact, when asked about your evidence of this, you came up with a completely manufactured number of calls to 911, when it was actually an order of magnitude lower number of calls to the non-emergency line.

Doesn't matter bro. Someone has to be punished because a guy died! Who cares about rights or a fair trial!

Lets look in more detail at this silly statement, using RT since you love it. Guilermo Del Toro: Pan's Labyrinth: 96% RT Hellboy: 81% RT Hellboy 2: 87% RT Mimic: 61% Blade 2: 59% Michael Bay: The Rock: 67% Transformers: 57% Pain and Gain: 46% Yeah...

But guys, its fine! The Patriot Act allowed all this and its all inevitable and we can't do anything about it so just bend over!

Except for GDT making good movies and Michael Bay never making a single good one.

No, but we have zero evidence of anything like that happened. In fact, from all the evidence we do have, it appears that Trayvon backtracked to Zimmerman after Zimmerman backed off.

You seem remarkably ignorant about this case Duppin. From your proof of Zimmerman's racism being 40+ 911 calls about people of a different color in his neighborhood in one year turning out to be complete fabrication, to your insistence that somehow following someone for a bit and then turning...

Yeah, what a stupid post. "After Blade II it's his two Hellboy flicks and Pan's Labyrinth. That's it, guys. " Yeah, two really good movies and two decent ones. So hate on him for not producing abunch of other stuff? Really?

That and if the media hadn't tried to play up the racial aspect of it. From the editing of the 911 tape, repeatedly mentioning that Zimmerman was white, constantly showing images of a younger trayvon, to ABC saying initially that Zimmerman had no wounds on his head. Just horrible horrible coverage.

Maybe Cad knows this, dunno. Have there been studies to see the effect of overcharging people on conviction rates? Does it tend to prejudice the jury towards being harsher or does the reasonable doubt of the actual charge lead to a lesser chance of a lesser included charge? ie: If you know...