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I'm more concerned about Brad saying too much - particularly early when the design document has all these great ideas that will take more time and money than NewCo will have. Brad has always struck me as the type of guy a large company would never let speak to the press without a chaperone to...

Hopefully less here after the Schilling fiasco on fohguild. Brad does have a slight advantage over Schilling though as he's actually shipped two titles - though the second had some major issues.

Eh. Ut will be back for sure if Brad shows up. But as Convo said, he should know what to expect from some corners.

HAHAHAH. Not the best idea for Brad to post here: will just lead to Ut-Brad wars. Better off responding to the odd Twitter/FB post. But hey if the man wants to jump into shark infested waters - who am I to stop him.

He's probably passed out. He's on East Coast time. @Abe I'd probably shell out $250 for an FnF Alpha given three year development time and the possibility NewCo might run out of money. Even if it collapses I'd still get maybe a year of play.

Finally saw this. Agree, pure crap. Can't think of a single redeeming moment - how did this get approved as the send off for Smith? -_-

Lies. Lies!

Those were weaksauce MMOS. This is the BradsterMMO: he needs to milk the salty tears of all those cyber-sailors who wrecked their hopes and dreams and GPA on the shores of Everquest and/or Vanguard.

So what KS Reward Tier will F&F Alpha Testing be at? $250? $500? $1000? You're part of the family if you toss in a $1000?

That wasn't the money quote: "We have great concept art that shows all sorts of people and locations and they're not all brown, don't worry." -BMcQ

So this is going to bethatkind of thread..

Anyway, regardless of popsicledeath's full throated support for Brad. The motto needs to be "trust but verify" anything to do with his new MMO. When you let someone out of prison for fraud you don't turn around and immediately entrust him with the keys to your safe deposit box -_-

No way dude, you totally read my mind :-O

AFAICT, it's a lore guy, a pr guy, an art guy and two designers, one of whom (McQuaid) can code but isn't know for his coding. I don't have a problem with two designers at this point considering that the current main task will be the design document (note to Brad: A signed copy of the design...

I don't see a serious coder in that group -_- I thought they had at least one.

Time for Draegen to start McQuaid Junkies site ;-) Also ask about travel generally: mounts early like BG? Jboots? Bard speed. Teleports limited to one or two classes? Boats you can fall off of? Etc..

Less strategy. Example is healing spam in DCUO. Also exhausting after 4 hours of play.

Thanks! (Gogojira as well)

I think, but can't prove, that the artist is Tyler James who used to work for Trion. Though maybe I'm reading too much into that tweet:Art of Ty

Besides the obvious - I'm curious about how they're going to handle alpha/beta access and in particular what they're going to do when they're in mid to late beta and they run out of money. Will they have a subscription based beta?

Blizzard ripped off Games Workshop for Warcraft. Everyone rips off everyone, does it really matter as long as you have a good time killing the mob?

At least they didn't name the guy Oranthal.

@Creed. @popsicle I'm probably looking at the past with rose tinted glasses. It happens. Yes there should be soloability but the good stuff should mostly require groups to go dungeon delving. I don't mind Necros being OP just as long as they're not OP in every environment: solo, group...

You are telling me the majority of players soloed to level in EQ? Because that's the modern standard and that's what we were talking about. I wasnt talking about camping some mobs ten levels below you for some rare drop.

What you described has nothing to do with EQ. At its core it was a game that required grouping up to achieve most of its rewards (XP, money, items). Soloing to cap and shit like you described are precisely what is most fucked about modern MMOs (along with instancing and the quest grind). So...

Hell no.

Ah, that explains that. Thanks, I was bored so I was uspto diving to see if I could find NewCo's trademark application. No luck. @Laura. I'll take EQ combat over the current spaz "action" combat that is the norm today. Though I liked both vanilla WoW and beta VG combat as well. Those ended...

Fun factoid. Brad is one of the inventors on a type of in-game prospecting patent# 8,540,566 . Was applied for in 2011 but approved in September. Doubt it has anything to do with NewCo's game. But what is interesting it is the patent was assigned to the defunct Maslow Six...

Actually the question is how many of those 'signups' are going to pay premiums. Doesn't matter though really - that number means that on Jan 1 there will be at least 4 million more people uninsured now thanks to Obamacare than there was before that trainwreck hit.

Eh, I failed my reading skill check, I guess. Yeah this is where you, me and Shabushabu break from the maddening crowd. Though I don't quite agree with Shabu that VG was ideal for soloing. It was close though - the best stuff was in the Premier Dungeons. The main issue I had with VG soloing...

@Creed Elaborating. If Brad & NewCo want to make the game on the cheap, but ensure that people don't run out of content and get bored quickly, then in addition to Zones they need to do something along the lines of: 1. Level 40ish Cap. Every ten levels requires a ton of work, in...

I'm not a developer if that's what you mean. I just know that logically a seemless world requires significantly more art assets and designer time since you're dealing with a much, much larger area. If you don't invest in art assets/designer time you got large swathes of wasteland (as could be...

Neither of them appears to be anything like an EQ or VG clone. Permadeath (ToA), PvP everywhere (DO) skill-only advancement (ToA and DO). EQ was a PvE game, class-less games are purely FOTM and take away from character identification, and Permadeath is just stupid. Brad may be notorious...

This is a very good point. Can't be pure EQ - there has to be soloable content and every class has to have some soloability - just not the extreme soloability that is WoW. Can't be true old school hardcore fuck you no-soloing classes if you can't find a group when you login. So EQ-ish with VG...

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EQ was built with 5 million-ish. Zones are the key. Zones, no flying mount chrome, quests for items and gold, not xp. Etc. Think small, not Vanguard or WoW. Project Gorgon is pretty fun for the few levels you can play and was built with pretty much zero money because it's basically 4-5...

*BOOM* 2026 +/- 6 years.

5 million or less.

The only future is a small niche game (50-100k). The fact people still play on EQ Progression and Vanguard suggests that a modern "hardcore" game can succeed as long as development costs are kept way, way, way down. That's the problem with Brad - he doesn't seem to be able to say "No" to a...

You are still begging the question. The point I'm trying to make is that it is easy to come up with a million reasons why not to give Brad the money, the hard part is coming up with a positive alternative that gets me (and everyone else interested in an old-school MMO) closer to that old-school...